From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard M Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs vista build failures Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 13:38:28 -0400 Message-ID: References: <36366a980807091202rd3b6521jc9fa45d321bc9d37@mail.gmail.com> <36366a980807101702r5677d096g8e62ef5b3e278868@mail.gmail.com> <4eb0089f0807111217m66d6cf4el777c197c107ce034@mail.gmail.com> <87skug6tq5.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <4eb0089f0807111345h13eccdds9b2cf43370b94074@mail.gmail.com> <4eb0089f0807121340x5e26f6dbve03ef50b238f3a3a@mail.gmail.com> <87k5fph5rh.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <20080713214648.GB1076@muc.de> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1216057380 7927 80.91.229.12 (14 Jul 2008 17:43:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 17:43:00 +0000 (UTC) Cc: cyd@stupidchicken.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, drobinow@gmail.com To: Alan Mackenzie Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jul 14 19:43:47 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KIS4L-0002Xj-K1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 14 Jul 2008 19:42:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57463 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KIS3S-0003iY-SZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 14 Jul 2008 13:41:42 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KIS0t-0002qy-5w for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Jul 2008 13:39:03 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KIS0s-0002qS-7p for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Jul 2008 13:39:02 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=47795 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KIS0s-0002qJ-1O for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Jul 2008 13:39:02 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:48224) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KIS0s-0004wy-3E for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Jul 2008 13:39:02 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1KIS0K-0004ja-7e; Mon, 14 Jul 2008 13:38:28 -0400 In-reply-to: <20080713214648.GB1076@muc.de> (message from Alan Mackenzie on Sun, 13 Jul 2008 21:46:48 +0000) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:100691 Archived-At: Richard, you're perhaps the brightest guy around, here. How long did it take you to get your first GNU/Linux installation installed and _fully_ working (i.e. all peripherals, networking, X-Windows, email, web-browsing, .... all satisfactory)? I have never done this myself. Perhaps that's why I am the brightest guy around ;-). Actually, what's best to do depends on your goals. If your wish is to get a machine running ASAP, ask (or even pay) an expert to do it. If your wish is to learn more about GNU/Linux system administration, installing it yourself is a good way to learn. foryou