From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard M Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs vista build failures Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 15:10:29 -0400 Message-ID: References: <36366a980807091202rd3b6521jc9fa45d321bc9d37@mail.gmail.com> <36366a980807101702r5677d096g8e62ef5b3e278868@mail.gmail.com> <4eb0089f0807111217m66d6cf4el777c197c107ce034@mail.gmail.com> <87skug6tq5.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <4eb0089f0807111345h13eccdds9b2cf43370b94074@mail.gmail.com> <4eb0089f0807121340x5e26f6dbve03ef50b238f3a3a@mail.gmail.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1215976284 31897 80.91.229.12 (13 Jul 2008 19:11:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 19:11:24 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "David Robinow" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jul 13 21:12:11 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KI6zM-0001RD-1C for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 13 Jul 2008 21:12:04 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60021 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KI6yT-00088r-UZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 13 Jul 2008 15:11:09 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KI6yN-00088Z-Cx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Jul 2008 15:11:03 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KI6yL-00088A-Dn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Jul 2008 15:11:02 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=35010 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KI6yL-000887-7X for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Jul 2008 15:11:01 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:38510) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KI6yL-0003I0-6r for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Jul 2008 15:11:01 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1KI6xp-0006bV-GM; Sun, 13 Jul 2008 15:10:29 -0400 In-reply-to: <4eb0089f0807121340x5e26f6dbve03ef50b238f3a3a@mail.gmail.com> (drobinow@gmail.com) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:100643 Archived-At: I didn't need an expert for Windows XP Home, Windows XP Pro, or Vista. It's an unfortunate fact that hardware developers cooperate with Microsoft more than they cooperate with us. I suspect that your experience is the consequence of that. What conclusion to derive from that depends on one's values. If you care strongly about freedom, you could get angry at them for aiding a company that does not respect our freedom, and you could resolve not to let them push you into giving up your freedom. On the other hand, if freedom is far down your list of priorities, you could do whatever is easiest in the short term, even if that means giving Microsoft total power over your computer. In effect, you would be letting Microsoft herd you wherever it wants.