From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard M Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs vista build failures Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 05:35:06 -0400 Message-ID: References: <36366a980807091202rd3b6521jc9fa45d321bc9d37@mail.gmail.com> <36366a980807101702r5677d096g8e62ef5b3e278868@mail.gmail.com> <4eb0089f0807111205k4a13f462jc21881c8558c517b@mail.gmail.com> <85vdzbr0uz.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <85r69znhlz.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1215941768 9035 80.91.229.12 (13 Jul 2008 09:36:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 09:36:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, drobinow@gmail.com To: David Kastrup Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jul 13 11:36:55 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KHy0h-0001SH-OG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 13 Jul 2008 11:36:52 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48041 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KHxzp-0001hZ-Ri for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 13 Jul 2008 05:35:57 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KHxzZ-0001bL-GM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Jul 2008 05:35:41 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KHxzX-0001Zy-6F for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Jul 2008 05:35:40 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=34096 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KHxzW-0001Zp-De for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Jul 2008 05:35:38 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:59394) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KHxzW-0006wA-GX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Jul 2008 05:35:38 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1KHxz0-00084I-Sc; Sun, 13 Jul 2008 05:35:06 -0400 In-reply-to: <85r69znhlz.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (message from David Kastrup on Sat, 12 Jul 2008 19:21:28 +0200) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:100636 Archived-At: I should think the kind of people desirous of being steered rarely ends up at our doorstep. I doubt there is anyone so firm of will and so sure of his views that he is never influenced by the views he hears presented by others. Our words always tend to influence people, by what they take for granted as well as what they say. That is why we should not take for granted that people use non-free software, or that they should.