From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard M Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs vista build failures Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 12:35:09 -0400 Message-ID: References: <36366a980807091202rd3b6521jc9fa45d321bc9d37@mail.gmail.com> <36366a980807101702r5677d096g8e62ef5b3e278868@mail.gmail.com> <4eb0089f0807111217m66d6cf4el777c197c107ce034@mail.gmail.com> <87skug6tq5.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <4eb0089f0807111345h13eccdds9b2cf43370b94074@mail.gmail.com> <4877C94E.3090202@gmail.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1215880558 29786 80.91.229.12 (12 Jul 2008 16:35:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 16:35:58 +0000 (UTC) Cc: miles@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, drobinow@gmail.com To: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jul 12 18:36:45 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KHi5S-0003UH-Ft for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 12 Jul 2008 18:36:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38934 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KHi4a-0002p4-AP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 12 Jul 2008 12:35:48 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KHi4U-0002oh-Ap for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Jul 2008 12:35:42 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KHi4R-0002oV-VC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Jul 2008 12:35:41 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=51247 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KHi4R-0002oJ-Nf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Jul 2008 12:35:39 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:45642) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KHi4R-0002pE-Kt for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Jul 2008 12:35:39 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1KHi3x-0000O1-DW; Sat, 12 Jul 2008 12:35:09 -0400 In-reply-to: <4877C94E.3090202@gmail.com> (lennart.borgman@gmail.com) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:100615 Archived-At: The crucial point IMO is letting go of the "we are best" attitude. We don't claim to be "best" in a technical sense, because that is a side issue anyway. What we claim to be is _ethical_, in contrast to the evil of proprietary software.