From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kenichi Handa Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: "no-conversion" coding system (was: ^M in the info files) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 09:31:39 +0900 Message-ID: References: <484F1FAB.6070005@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.3 - "Ushinoya") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1215649990 2253 80.91.229.12 (10 Jul 2008 00:33:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 00:33:10 +0000 (UTC) Cc: lekktu@gmail.com, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 10 02:33:57 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KGk6a-0002Ai-7Z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 10 Jul 2008 02:33:53 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55006 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KGk5V-0002Zb-8k for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 09 Jul 2008 20:32:45 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KGk53-0002RJ-SL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Jul 2008 20:32:17 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KGk51-0002Q9-TN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Jul 2008 20:32:17 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=47841 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KGk51-0002Pw-Hq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Jul 2008 20:32:15 -0400 Original-Received: from mx1.aist.go.jp ([150.29.246.133]:50992) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KGk4p-0003u4-8Y; Wed, 09 Jul 2008 20:32:04 -0400 Original-Received: from rqsmtp1.aist.go.jp (rqsmtp1.aist.go.jp [150.29.254.115]) by mx1.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id m6A0VeBZ000322; Thu, 10 Jul 2008 09:31:40 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Original-Received: from smtp1.aist.go.jp by rqsmtp1.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id m6A0VeLJ020906; Thu, 10 Jul 2008 09:31:40 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Original-Received: by smtp1.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id m6A0VdaF024266; Thu, 10 Jul 2008 09:31:39 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Original-Received: from handa by etlken.m17n.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KGk4R-0000Nu-Bq; Thu, 10 Jul 2008 09:31:39 +0900 In-reply-to: (message from Richard M Stallman on Wed, 09 Jul 2008 19:57:49 -0400) User-Agent: SEMI/1.14.3 (Ushinoya) FLIM/1.14.2 (Yagi-Nishiguchi) APEL/10.2 Emacs/23.0.60 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) MULE/6.0 (HANACHIRUSATO) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 9 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:100510 Archived-At: In article , Richard M Stallman writes: > I mean, this is a misnomer which gives the illusion that there is such > a thing as "no conversion", even though in reality there always is some > conversion going on. > `no-conversion' used to really mean no conversion. > Why has that changed? Nothing is changed. When you insert a file in a multibyte buffer with no-conversion, each eight-bit code is converted to a special 2-byte form to represent eight-bit character. --- Kenichi Handa handa@ni.aist.go.jp