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From: Kenichi Handa <handa@m17n.org>
To: Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: adding consistent extra symbols to input methods (cyrillic-*, croatian-*, slov*, czech-* etc.) input methods
Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 21:54:21 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1KF7HR-0006sg-KI@etlken.m17n.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <864p76lp60.fsf_-_@lifelogs.com> (message from Ted Zlatanov on Thu, 03 Jul 2008 14:53:59 -0500)

In article <864p76lp60.fsf_-_@lifelogs.com>, Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:

> Right, I'm trying to do the above for input methods that are in
> input-method-alist but not necessarily loaded.  So this works:

> (dolist (method 
> 	 (remove nil
> 		 (mapcar 
> 		  (lambda(m) 
> 		    (let ((name (car-safe m)))
> 		      (when (and (string-match "cyrillic" name)
> 				 (quail-package name))
> 			name)))
> 		  input-method-alist)))
>   (message "Defining rules for method %s" method)
>   (quail-defrule ",," ?„ method))

> The question is, should I load those input methods explicitly, or just
> assume that it's enough to handle what's in leim/quail/cyrillic.el?

You can't assume that all "cyrillic*" input methods are in
leim/quail/cyrillic.el.  So the safest (and more efficient)
way is something like this:

(mapc (lambda(m) 
	(let ((name (car m)))
	  (when (string-match "cyrillic" name)
	    (message "Defining rules for method %s" method)
	    (activate-input-method name)
	    (quail-defrule ",," ?„)
	    (inactivate-input-method))))
      input-method-alist)

But, I'm now thiking about introducing this variable to
avoid eval-after-load in leim-ext.el:

;;;###autoload
(defvar quail-additional-rule-alist nil
  "Alist of Quail package names vs. the rules to add after loading the package.
Each element has the form (PACKAGE-NAME RULE ...), where
PACKAGE-NAME is a Quail package name (string representing an input method),
and RULE is a translation rule of the form (KEY TRANSLATION APPEND).
See the documentaion of the function `quail-defrule' for the meanings
or KEY, TRANSLATION, and APPEND.")

With this, you can do: 

(mapc (lambda(m) 
	(let ((name (car m)))
	  (when (string-match "cyrillic" name)
	    (message "Defining rules for method %s" method)
	    (push (list name '(",," ?„)) quail-additional-rule-alist))))
      input-method-alist)

> Specifically, cyrillic-jis-russian wouldn't be handled this way, and it
> can benefit from the extended mappings I am creating (proper double
> quotes „ “, single quotes ‚‘ and the № § « » symbols).  If I should
> special-case it in leim-ext.el that's fine, I'm just trying to approach
> it programmatically.  

I think cyrillic-jis-russian is now obsolete because all
Cyrillic character in JIS are now unified into Unicode.

---
Kenichi Handa
handa@ni.aist.go.jp




  reply	other threads:[~2008-07-05 12:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-06-13 14:27 composed characters question and suggestions for quail-cyrillic-* Ted Zlatanov
2008-06-13 15:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-06-13 15:56 ` Jason Rumney
2008-06-13 18:09   ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-06-14  9:44     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-06-14 18:55       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-06-14 19:45         ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-06-18 20:17           ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-06-19 11:45             ` Kenichi Handa
2008-07-02 20:25               ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-03  2:29                 ` Kenichi Handa
2008-07-03 19:53                   ` adding consistent extra symbols to input methods (cyrillic-*, croatian-*, slov*, czech-* etc.) input methods Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-05 12:54                     ` Kenichi Handa [this message]
2008-07-06 18:40                       ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-06 22:54                         ` Miles Bader
2008-07-10  0:09                           ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-10  0:37                             ` Kenichi Handa
2008-07-10  0:52                               ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-10  1:44                                 ` Kenichi Handa
2008-07-10  1:15                             ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-10  0:27                           ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-10  1:16                             ` Miles Bader
2008-07-10 18:43                               ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-11  2:52                                 ` Miles Bader
2008-07-07  1:57                         ` Kenichi Handa
2008-07-07  4:39                           ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-07  5:25                             ` Kenichi Handa
2008-07-07 19:42                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-07 22:05                               ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-13  5:11                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-07-13  5:17                                   ` Miles Bader
2008-07-13 21:27                                     ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-14  3:18                                       ` Miles Bader
2008-07-14  4:43                                         ` Kenichi Handa
2008-07-14 21:51                                           ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-15  1:24                                             ` Kenichi Handa
2008-07-28 13:30                                               ` multiple input methods (was: adding consistent extra symbols to input methods) Juri Linkov
2008-07-06 18:41     ` composed characters question and suggestions for quail-cyrillic-* Juri Linkov
2008-07-07 20:12       ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-07 21:42         ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-08  0:48           ` Kenichi Handa
2008-07-08 10:46           ` Werner LEMBERG
2008-07-08 21:47             ` David Kastrup
2008-07-08 15:37           ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-08 17:38             ` James Cloos
2008-07-08 22:54             ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-09 16:02               ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-09 18:02                 ` James Cloos
2008-07-09 18:49                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-09 19:51                   ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-09 18:48                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-09 19:33                   ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-09 22:14                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-09 23:52                       ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-10 12:47                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-10 18:45                           ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-10 19:10                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-10 19:52                               ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-10 20:40                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-10 22:01                                   ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-12 20:51                                     ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-14 14:01                                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-14 21:47                                       ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-15 15:06                                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-15 20:32                                           ` Juri Linkov
2008-08-01 21:07                                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-08-05 21:00                                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-08-05 22:05                                               ` Chong Yidong
2008-07-10 22:09                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-10 22:54                                   ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-11  1:26                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-11  2:08                                     ` Kenichi Handa
2008-07-09 19:21                 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-08 15:49           ` James Cloos
2008-07-08 18:50             ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-08 19:50               ` James Cloos
2008-07-08 20:26                 ` composed characters question and suggestions for?quail-cyrillic-* Teemu Likonen

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