emacs chooses wrong bold font, again

emacs chooses wrong bold font, again

[Glenn Morris]

My emacs is using the wrong bold font, again.

http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2008-05/msg01204.html

C-u x = reports:

default: -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--14-130-75-75-c-70-iso8859-1
bold   : -misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--14-101-100-100-c-90-iso8859-1


The bold font should be (from Emacs 22):

-Misc-Fixed-Bold-R-Normal--14-130-75-75-C-70-ISO8859-1


In ~/.Xdefaults I have:

Emacs.font: -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal-*-14-*-100-100-*-*-iso8859-1


I have tried changing this to:

Emacs.font: -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal-*-14-130-75-75-*-*-iso8859-1

but it does not help.


Here is the M-x font-show-log output:


xfont-list: -misc-fixed-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed--17-*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed--13-*-75-75-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed--13-*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed--12-*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed--12-*-75-75-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed--*-75-75-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--9-*-75-75-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--9-*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--8-*-75-75-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--8-*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--7-*-75-75-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--7-*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--6-*-75-75-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--20-*-75-75-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--20-*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--18-*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--17-*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--15-*-75-75-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--15-*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
  ...
ftfont-list: -misc-fixed-*-iso8859-1
  -Misc-Fixed-normal-normal-normal-*-13-*-c-*-iso8859-1
  -Misc-Fixed-normal-normal-normal-*-9-*-c-*-iso8859-1
  -Misc-Fixed-normal-normal-normal-*-7-*-c-*-iso8859-1
  -Misc-Fixed-bold-normal-normal-*-14-*-c-*-iso8859-1
  -Misc-Fixed-normal-normal-normal-*-13-*-c-*-iso8859-1
  -Misc-Fixed-normal-oblique-normal-*-13-*-c-*-iso8859-1
  -Misc-Fixed-normal-normal-normal-*-20-*-c-*-iso8859-1
  -Misc-Fixed-normal-normal-normal-*-18-*-c-*-iso8859-1
  -Misc-Fixed-normal-normal-semi-condensed-*-12-*-c-*-iso8859-1
  -Misc-Fixed-bold-normal-normal-*-13-*-c-*-iso8859-1
  -Misc-Fixed-normal-normal-normal-*-7-*-c-*-iso8859-1
  -Misc-Fixed-normal-normal-normal-*-15-*-c-*-iso8859-1
  -Misc-Fixed-bold-normal-normal-*-18-*-c-*-iso8859-1
  -Misc-Fixed-normal-normal-normal-*-20-*-c-*-iso8859-1
  -Misc-Fixed-normal-normal-normal-*-14-*-c-*-iso8859-1
  -Misc-Fixed-normal-normal-normal-*-18-*-c-*-iso8859-1
  -Misc-Fixed-bold-normal-semi-condensed-*-13-*-c-*-iso8859-1
  -Misc-Fixed-bold-normal-normal-*-13-*-c-*-iso8859-1
  -Misc-Fixed-bold-normal-normal-*-15-*-c-*-iso8859-1
  ...
list: -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal-*-75-75-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--*-75-75-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--10-*-75-75-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--10-*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--13-*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--13-*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--13-*-75-75-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--13-*-75-75-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--14-*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--14-*-75-75-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--15-*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--15-*-75-75-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--17-*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--18-*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--20-*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--20-*-75-75-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--6-*-75-75-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--7-*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--7-*-75-75-c-*-iso8859-1
  ...
sort-by: -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal-*-14-*-75-75-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
open: -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--14-130-75-75-c-70-iso8859-1
xfont-list: -misc-fixed-*-*-*--*-*-*-*-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed--17-*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed--13-*-75-75-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed--13-*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed--12-*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed--12-*-75-75-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed--*-75-75-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--9-*-75-75-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--9-*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--8-*-75-75-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--8-*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--7-*-75-75-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--7-*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--6-*-75-75-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--20-*-75-75-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--20-*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--18-*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--17-*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--15-*-75-75-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--15-*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
  ...
ftfont-list: -misc-fixed-*--*-c-*-iso8859-1
  -Misc-Fixed-normal-normal-normal-*-13-*-c-*-iso8859-1
  -Misc-Fixed-normal-normal-normal-*-9-*-c-*-iso8859-1
  -Misc-Fixed-normal-normal-normal-*-7-*-c-*-iso8859-1
  -Misc-Fixed-bold-normal-normal-*-14-*-c-*-iso8859-1
  -Misc-Fixed-normal-normal-normal-*-13-*-c-*-iso8859-1
  -Misc-Fixed-normal-oblique-normal-*-13-*-c-*-iso8859-1
  -Misc-Fixed-normal-normal-normal-*-20-*-c-*-iso8859-1
  -Misc-Fixed-normal-normal-normal-*-18-*-c-*-iso8859-1
  -Misc-Fixed-normal-normal-semi-condensed-*-12-*-c-*-iso8859-1
  -Misc-Fixed-bold-normal-normal-*-13-*-c-*-iso8859-1
  -Misc-Fixed-normal-normal-normal-*-7-*-c-*-iso8859-1
  -Misc-Fixed-normal-normal-normal-*-15-*-c-*-iso8859-1
  -Misc-Fixed-bold-normal-normal-*-18-*-c-*-iso8859-1
  -Misc-Fixed-normal-normal-normal-*-20-*-c-*-iso8859-1
  -Misc-Fixed-normal-normal-normal-*-14-*-c-*-iso8859-1
  -Misc-Fixed-normal-normal-normal-*-18-*-c-*-iso8859-1
  -Misc-Fixed-bold-normal-semi-condensed-*-13-*-c-*-iso8859-1
  -Misc-Fixed-bold-normal-normal-*-13-*-c-*-iso8859-1
  -Misc-Fixed-bold-normal-normal-*-15-*-c-*-iso8859-1
  ...
list: -misc-fixed-medium-*-normal--*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-o-normal--*-75-75-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-o-normal--13-*-75-75-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-o-normal--13-*-75-75-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-o-normal--17-*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--*-75-75-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--10-*-75-75-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--10-*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--13-*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--13-*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--13-*-75-75-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--13-*-75-75-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--14-*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--14-*-75-75-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--15-*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--15-*-75-75-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--17-*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--18-*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--20-*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
  ...
sort-by: -misc-fixed-medium-italic-normal--14-*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-o-normal--*-75-75-c-*-iso8859-1
open: -misc-fixed-medium-o-normal--*-75-75-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-o-normal--14-135-75-75-c-80-iso8859-1
list: -misc-fixed-*-r-normal--*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--*-75-75-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--13-*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--13-*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--13-*-75-75-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--13-*-75-75-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--14-*-75-75-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--15-*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--15-*-75-75-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--17-*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--18-*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--*-75-75-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--10-*-75-75-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--10-*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--13-*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--13-*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--13-*-75-75-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--13-*-75-75-c-*-iso8859-1
  ...
sort-by: -misc-fixed-light-r-normal--14-*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
open: -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--14-130-75-75-c-70-iso8859-1
list: -misc-fixed-*-r-normal--*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--*-75-75-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--13-*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--13-*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--13-*-75-75-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--13-*-75-75-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--14-*-75-75-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--15-*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--15-*-75-75-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--17-*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--18-*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--*-75-75-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--10-*-75-75-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--10-*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--13-*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--13-*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--13-*-75-75-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--13-*-75-75-c-*-iso8859-1
  ...
sort-by: -misc-fixed-light-r-normal--14-*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
list: -misc-fixed-*-r-normal--*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--*-75-75-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--13-*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--13-*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--13-*-75-75-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--13-*-75-75-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--14-*-75-75-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--15-*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--15-*-75-75-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--17-*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--18-*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--*-75-75-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--10-*-75-75-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--10-*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--13-*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--13-*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--13-*-75-75-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--13-*-75-75-c-*-iso8859-1
  ...
sort-by: -misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--14-*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
open: -misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--14-101-100-100-c-90-iso8859-1
list: -misc-fixed-medium-*-normal--*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-o-normal--*-75-75-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-o-normal--13-*-75-75-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-o-normal--13-*-75-75-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-o-normal--17-*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--*-75-75-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--10-*-75-75-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--10-*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--13-*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--13-*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--13-*-75-75-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--13-*-75-75-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--14-*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--14-*-75-75-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--15-*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--15-*-75-75-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--17-*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--18-*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--20-*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
  ...
sort-by: -misc-fixed-medium-italic-normal--14-*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-o-normal--*-75-75-c-*-iso8859-1

Re: emacs chooses wrong bold font, again

[Kenichi Handa]

In article <vnskvbgyte.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org>, Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org> writes:
> My emacs is using the wrong bold font, again.

> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2008-05/msg01204.html

> C-u x = reports:

> default: -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--14-130-75-75-c-70-iso8859-1
> bold   : -misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--14-101-100-100-c-90-iso8859-1

> The bold font should be (from Emacs 22):

> -Misc-Fixed-Bold-R-Normal--14-130-75-75-C-70-ISO8859-1

I feel sorry about this repeated breaking, but I can't
reproduce it.

> Here is the M-x font-show-log output:

> sort-by: -misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--14-*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
>   -misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1

This is the strange part.  I don't know why the PIXELSIZE
field is "*".  As I modified the log to prepend the
font-driver name before the font-entity and font-object,
please take the log again and show me.

---
Kenichi Handa
handa@ni.aist.go.jp

Re: emacs chooses wrong bold font, again

[Glenn Morris]

Kenichi Handa wrote:

>> Here is the M-x font-show-log output:
>
>> sort-by: -misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--14-*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
>>   -misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--*-100-100-c-*-iso8859-1
>
> This is the strange part. I don't know why the PIXELSIZE field is
> "*". As I modified the log to prepend the font-driver name before
> the font-entity and font-object, please take the log again and show me.

(No worries, I imagine all this font stuff is a nightmare to sort out.)

The bold font is correct again now (Emacs from 2 days ago gets it wrong).

I noticed that Emacs 22 and current CVS choose slightly different
fonts for fixed and variable pitch. Fixed looks smaller and a bit
uglier now. Variable just looks a bit different.

variable-pitch
CVS:
-adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal--14-101-100-100-p-78-iso8859-1
22:
-Adobe-Helvetica-Medium-R-Normal--14-100-100-100-P-76-ISO8859-1

fixed-pitch
CVS:
-urw-nimbus mono l-regular-r-normal--14-101-100-100-p-80-iso8859-1
22:
-Adobe-Courier-Medium-R-Normal--14-100-100-100-M-90-ISO8859-1


This is with:
Emacs.font: -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal-*-14-*-100-100-*-*-iso8859-1


Also, I have been specifying an italic font in ~/.emacs using

(face-spec-set 'italic
               '((t (:slant italic :underline nil :family "helvetica"))))

In CVS this now looks poor compared to in 22. Again they choose
different fonts:

CVS:
-urw-nimbus sans l-regular-i-normal--14-101-100-100-p-77-iso8859-1
22:
-Adobe-Helvetica-Medium-O-Normal--14-100-100-100-P-78-ISO8859-1


font log:

xfont-list: -misc-fixed-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed--13-*-75-75-c-60-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed--13-*-100-100-c-60-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed--12-*-100-100-c-60-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed--12-*-75-75-c-60-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--9-*-75-75-c-60-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--9-*-100-100-c-60-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--8-*-75-75-c-50-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--8-*-100-100-c-50-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--7-*-75-75-c-50-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--7-*-100-100-c-50-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--6-*-75-75-c-40-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--20-*-75-75-c-100-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--20-*-100-100-c-100-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--18-*-100-100-c-90-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--15-*-75-75-c-90-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--15-*-100-100-c-90-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--14-*-75-75-c-70-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--14-*-100-100-c-70-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--13-*-75-75-c-80-iso8859-1
  ...
ftfont-list: -misc-fixed-*-iso8859-1
  -Misc-Fixed-normal-normal-normal-*-15-*-c-*-iso8859-1
  -Misc-Fixed-normal-normal-normal-*-13-*-c-*-iso8859-1
  -Misc-Fixed-normal-oblique-semi-condensed-*-13-*-c-*-iso8859-1
  -Misc-Fixed-bold-normal-normal-*-14-*-c-*-iso8859-1
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Re: emacs chooses wrong bold font, again

[Kenichi Handa]

In article <vj1w2sr2yo.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org>, Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org> writes:

> The bold font is correct again now (Emacs from 2 days ago gets it wrong).

Strange.  I didn't change any code related to font-selection
in these two days.

> I noticed that Emacs 22 and current CVS choose slightly different
> fonts for fixed and variable pitch. Fixed looks smaller and a bit
> uglier now. Variable just looks a bit different.

> variable-pitch
> CVS:
> -adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal--14-101-100-100-p-78-iso8859-1
> 22:
> -Adobe-Helvetica-Medium-R-Normal--14-100-100-100-P-76-ISO8859-1

> fixed-pitch
> CVS:
> -urw-nimbus mono l-regular-r-normal--14-101-100-100-p-80-iso8859-1
> 22:
> -Adobe-Courier-Medium-R-Normal--14-100-100-100-M-90-ISO8859-1

> This is with:
> Emacs.font: -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal-*-14-*-100-100-*-*-iso8859-1

In my environment, with the above default font, CVS emacs
uses exactly the same fonts as Emacs 22.

> Also, I have been specifying an italic font in ~/.emacs using

> (face-spec-set 'italic
>                '((t (:slant italic :underline nil :family "helvetica"))))

> In CVS this now looks poor compared to in 22. Again they choose
> different fonts:

> CVS:
> -urw-nimbus sans l-regular-i-normal--14-101-100-100-p-77-iso8859-1
> 22:
> -Adobe-Helvetica-Medium-O-Normal--14-100-100-100-P-78-ISO8859-1

I tried that too, and get the same result as Emacs 22.
Please tell me your system (sorry if I asked it before).

> font log:
[...]
> sort-by: -misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--14-*-100-100-c-70-iso8859-1
>   x:-misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--14-*-75-75-c-70-iso8859-1
> open: -misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--14-*-75-75-c-70-iso8859-1
>   x:-misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--14-130-75-75-c-70-iso8859-1

Hmmm, the PIXELSIZE field is correct now.

Please try this:

(1) Start Emacs as usual.

(2) Load the attached file "temp.el".

(3) M-x temp RET

And show me the result of *Help* buffer.

---
Kenichi Handa
handa@ni.aist.go.jp

----temp.el------------------------------------------------------------------
(defun temp ()
  (interactive)
  (let ((buf (get-buffer-create "temp")))
    (set-buffer buf)
    (erase-buffer)
    (font-lock-mode -1)
    (insert (propertize "italic" 'face 'italic))
    (insert "\n")
    (insert (propertize "fixed-pitch" 'face 'fixed-pitch))
    (insert "\n")
    (insert (propertize "variable-pitch" 'face 'variable-pitch))
    (insert "\n")
    (switch-to-buffer buf)
    (setq font-log nil)
    (sit-for 0)
    (font-show-log)))

Re: emacs chooses wrong bold font, again

[Glenn Morris]

Kenichi Handa wrote:

>> The bold font is correct again now (Emacs from 2 days ago gets it wrong).
>
> Strange.  I didn't change any code related to font-selection
> in these two days.

Perhaps I've been doing something dumb, though I don't know what it
could be. Anyway, bold now looks ok. Sorry for the noise on that
front.

>> I noticed that Emacs 22 and current CVS choose slightly different
>> fonts for fixed and variable pitch. Fixed looks smaller and a bit
>> uglier now. Variable just looks a bit different.

Due I think to some very recent changes, CVS now uses Bitstream Vera
Sans (Mono) for variable (fixed) pitch. It looks nice, better than in 22.

The only remaining issue I have is with italic fonts.
I was using this with 22::

emacs -Q
(face-spec-set 'italic
                   '((t (:slant italic :underline nil :family "helvetica"))))
(face-spec-set 'bold-italic
                   '((t (:slant italic :underline nil
                               :weight bold :family "helvetica"))))

and getting:
-Adobe-Helvetica-Medium-O-Normal--14-100-100-100-P-78-ISO8859-1
-Adobe-Helvetica-Medium-O-Normal--14-100-100-100-P-78-ISO8859-1

with CVS, I get a worse looking:
-urw-nimbus sans l-regular-i-normal--14-101-100-100-p-77-iso8859-1
-urw-nimbus sans l-bold-i-normal--14-101-100-100-p-81-iso8859-1

Perhaps I'm just supposed to specify fonts differently now?

> I tried that too, and get the same result as Emacs 22.
> Please tell me your system (sorry if I asked it before).

This is an up-to-date Debian testing system.

> (1) Start Emacs as usual.

I'm using the above emacs -Q followed by face-spec-set.

> (2) Load the attached file "temp.el".
>
> (3) M-x temp RET
>
> And show me the result of *Help* buffer.

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list: -misc-helvetica-medium-*-normal-*-iso8859-1
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ftfont-list: -misc-helvetica-*-ascii-0
list: -misc-helvetica-medium-*-normal-*-ascii-0
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Re: emacs chooses wrong bold font, again

[Glenn Morris]

Glenn Morris wrote:

> Anyway, bold now looks ok.

The current CVS is back to using overstriking for bold again.

C-u x = on a bold character reports:

22:  -Misc-Fixed-Bold-R-Normal--14-130-75-75-C-70-ISO8859-1
CVS: -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--14-130-75-75-c-70-iso8859-1

I am using in ~/.Xdefaults:
Emacs.font: -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal-*-14-*-100-100-*-*-iso8859-1

If I change the above to:
Emacs.font: -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal-*-14-130-75-75-*-*-iso8859-1

then CVS chooses the right bold font. It's no problem for me to do
that, I'm just pointing out that the previous form has stopped working
in case it should be fixed.

The font-show-log output from the first Xdefaults setting is:

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  -Misc-Fixed-normal-normal-normal-*-13-*-c-*-iso8859-1
  -Misc-Fixed-normal-normal-normal-*-20-*-c-*-iso8859-1
  ...
sort-by: -misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--14-*-100-100-c-70-iso8859-1
  x:-misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--14-*-100-100-c-70-iso8859-1

Re: emacs chooses wrong bold font, again

[Kenichi Handa]

In article <45tzffdars.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org>, Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org> writes:

> Glenn Morris wrote:
> > Anyway, bold now looks ok.

> The current CVS is back to using overstriking for bold again.

> C-u x = on a bold character reports:

> 22:  -Misc-Fixed-Bold-R-Normal--14-130-75-75-C-70-ISO8859-1
> CVS: -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--14-130-75-75-c-70-iso8859-1

> I am using in ~/.Xdefaults:
> Emacs.font: -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal-*-14-*-100-100-*-*-iso8859-1

I was going to explain the change about this issue.

I had been trying to support such a case (i.e. the DPI
specified for the default font is different from the
preferred bold version) by loosing the rule in font listing
routine, but I realized that it's causes another weird
problem that is more difficult to workaround.  So, I changed
that rule more strict.  As the result:

> list: -misc-fixed-*-r-normal--*-100-100-c-70-iso8859-1

lists just these X fonts:

>   -misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--13-*-100-100-c-70-iso8859-1
>   -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--13-*-100-100-c-70-iso8859-1
>   -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--14-*-100-100-c-70-iso8859-1

and, thus we get this result:

> sort-by: -misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--14-*-100-100-c-70-iso8859-1
>   x:-misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--14-*-100-100-c-70-iso8859-1

because the size is more important than weight (according to
face-font-selection-order).

> If I change the above to:
> Emacs.font: -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal-*-14-130-75-75-*-*-iso8859-1
> then CVS chooses the right bold font. 

Yes, that's the workaround I was going to suggest.  If you
want these fonts:

default: -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--14-130-75-75-c-70-iso8859-1
   bold: -misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--14-130-75-75-c-70-iso8859-1

I think there's no problem in specifying Emacs.font as
above, and that is more reasonable.  Anyway...

> It's no problem for me to do
> that, I'm just pointing out that the previous form has stopped working
> in case it should be fixed.

thank you for keeping watch on this problem.

---
Kenichi Handa
handa@ni.aist.go.jp

Re: emacs chooses wrong bold font, again

[Glenn Morris]

Kenichi Handa wrote:

> Yes, that's the workaround I was going to suggest.  If you
> want these fonts:
>
> default: -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--14-130-75-75-c-70-iso8859-1
>    bold: -misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--14-130-75-75-c-70-iso8859-1
>
> I think there's no problem in specifying Emacs.font as
> above, and that is more reasonable.  Anyway...

Sounds fine to me. I would suggest a PROBLEMS entry, since I had never
realized what I was specifying in my ~/.Xdefaults was not the best
name to use, since it always Just Worked till now.

Re: emacs chooses wrong bold font, again

[Stefan Monnier]

> I had been trying to support such a case (i.e. the DPI
> specified for the default font is different from the
> preferred bold version) by loosing the rule in font listing

That's the problem with paying too much attention to the DPI setting,
even though it's clearly a bogus setting (as evidenced by the fact that
our faces don't have a `dpi' attribute (thank god)).

I think the DPI should only be considered when choosing among fonts
which are otherwise identical.


        Stefan