From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard M Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: visualization of CVS commits Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 17:21:46 -0400 Message-ID: References: <20080624.080153.252133130.wl@gnu.org> <87vdzyfx7s.fsf@gmail.com> <858wwtle30.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <85myl9jtzm.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <4862D42C.7060401@emf.net> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1214515548 1473 80.91.229.12 (26 Jun 2008 21:25:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 21:25:48 +0000 (UTC) Cc: tealeg@member.fsf.org, cloos@jhcloos.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Thomas Lord Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jun 26 23:26:33 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KByz5-0006RM-4i for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 26 Jun 2008 23:26:27 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42628 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KByyF-0006Cf-8y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 26 Jun 2008 17:25:35 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KByul-0004Kk-FH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Jun 2008 17:21:59 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KByuj-0004Jt-MT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Jun 2008 17:21:59 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=50121 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KByuj-0004Jn-I6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Jun 2008 17:21:57 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:43233) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KByuj-0000Bh-7x; Thu, 26 Jun 2008 17:21:57 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1KByuY-0003nQ-Mx; Thu, 26 Jun 2008 17:21:46 -0400 In-reply-to: <4862D42C.7060401@emf.net> (message from Thomas Lord on Wed, 25 Jun 2008 16:26:36 -0700) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:99977 Archived-At: Perhaps a sweet goal would be to put together a vid with a few seconds of some stock footage of RMS talking about key points, some title screens or captions linking to ogg formats and other FSF-related video, That is something I might do (but it isn't particularly related to Emacs). and (if possible) use free software tools to prepare a video that "youtube" can handle (which would be a flash/gnash vid). Using that format would undermine our words, so we won't do that. Most people who view it via youtube will be using non-free software and the problematic flash format but it would still be a bit subversive in that the links would still lead *some* to explore GNU and ogg On the contrary, the use of Flash would subvert our message. This is a case where the medium conveys a message, and that message contradicts what we say.