From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kenichi Handa Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Fixed-pitch and variable-pitch faces Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 15:35:56 +0900 Message-ID: References: <871w39mcx5.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <877icz5rai.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87bq2bus9a.fsf@stupidchicken.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.3 - "Ushinoya") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1212993384 5974 80.91.229.12 (9 Jun 2008 06:36:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 06:36:24 +0000 (UTC) Cc: cyd@stupidchicken.com, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, cloos@jhcloos.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Miles Bader Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jun 09 08:37:06 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1K5b05-0006di-JD for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 08:37:05 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59799 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1K5azI-00026T-A4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 02:36:16 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K5azC-00024n-Td for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 02:36:10 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K5azC-00024S-9U for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 02:36:10 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=49174 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1K5azC-00024P-2M for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 02:36:10 -0400 Original-Received: from mx1.aist.go.jp ([150.29.246.133]:42025) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1K5az3-00019Z-31; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 02:36:01 -0400 Original-Received: from rqsmtp1.aist.go.jp (rqsmtp1.aist.go.jp [150.29.254.115]) by mx1.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id m596aUnq008602; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 15:36:30 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Original-Received: from smtp1.aist.go.jp by rqsmtp1.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id m596Zv8L013957; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 15:35:57 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Original-Received: by smtp1.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id m596ZudL018800; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 15:35:56 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Original-Received: from handa by etlken.m17n.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1K5ayy-0002qN-HL; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 15:35:56 +0900 In-reply-to: (message from Miles Bader on Mon, 09 Jun 2008 15:14:22 +0900) User-Agent: SEMI/1.14.3 (Ushinoya) FLIM/1.14.2 (Yagi-Nishiguchi) APEL/10.2 Emacs/23.0.60 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) MULE/6.0 (HANACHIRUSATO) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 9 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:98764 Archived-At: In article , Miles Bader writes: > Kenichi Handa writes: >>> The current (apparent) unpredictability of Emacs' font-selection can be >>> quite maddening... > > > > What unpredictability do you mean here? Emacs simply > > doesn't find a font that "fc-list" doesn't find. > For instance if I set the `default' face to have family "Aurulent Sans > Mono", Emacs chooses something completely different ("FreeMono" as it > happens). > If I select the same font, "Aurulent Sans Mono", at the same size, in > e.g. gnome-terminal, it uses it. gnome-terminal, AFAIK, uses fontconfig. > There seem to be quite a few fonts like this, which definitely exist and > work fine in other apps, but which I can't get Emacs to use. Then, it's clearly a bug (of ftfont_list perhaps). What is shown by: % fc-list 'Aurulent Sans Mono' family file --- Kenichi Handa handa@ni.aist.go.jp