From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard M Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Mail that shuld not be sent here Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 11:16:29 -0400 Message-ID: References: <20080530165402.GR15311@volo.donarmstrong.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1212247185 7062 80.91.229.12 (31 May 2008 15:19:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 15:19:45 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Don Armstrong Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat May 31 17:20:25 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1K2Ssa-0002Cw-Q4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 31 May 2008 17:20:25 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46075 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1K2Sro-0003ze-Vs for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 31 May 2008 11:19:37 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K2Sqa-0003fW-9s for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 31 May 2008 11:18:20 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K2SqY-0003fE-Kv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 31 May 2008 11:18:18 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=48249 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1K2SqY-0003fB-AF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 31 May 2008 11:18:18 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:37499) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1K2SqY-00055S-As for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 31 May 2008 11:18:18 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1K2Son-0007Fn-Q7; Sat, 31 May 2008 11:16:29 -0400 In-reply-to: <20080530165402.GR15311@volo.donarmstrong.com> (message from Don Armstrong on Fri, 30 May 2008 17:54:02 +0100) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:98137 Archived-At: > Here are some examples of the sort of message which the bug tracker > is sending to emacs-devel or bug-gnu-emacs. I think it should be > fixed to stop sending these messages to those lists. The first corresponds to the bug actually being closed; it isn't a canned mail, but the concatenation of the original report, I thought of it as canned because the text seems to be pretty much the same every time. Thanks for the correction. The point is, please don't send those messages to bug-gnu-emacs. The second message is the ack from the control bot, which is the only way you'd know whether or not this bug had been closed, marked wontfix, reopened, unarchived, etc. There is no reason to tell everyone on bug-gnu-emacs how this bug has been marked. Please don't send those messages to bug-gnu-emacs. However, in my experience, they're all information that people involved in tracking bugs really want to know about, Most of the readers of bug-gnu-emacs are not involved in tracking bugs this way. Those that are involved can easily put themselves on the list to receive those messages. All of these can be easily excluded using procmail or similar by filtering out messages with X-Emacs-Pr-Message: closed and X-Emacs-Pr-Message: transcript respectively.[1] I am sure that is true, but it makes no sense to make a lot of people go to this trouble. Sending this mail to bug-gnu-emacs is a bad default. Please send it to some other list instead.