From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard M Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Next release Date: Fri, 09 May 2008 07:12:47 -0400 Message-ID: References: <18457.37369.262079.668907@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <200805040056.m440u3eS022727@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <874p9dn46h.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <4822B82A.6030003@gnu.org> <86zlr1qjq3.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <8763tozw7y.fsf@catnip.gol.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1210331651 7342 80.91.229.12 (9 May 2008 11:14:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 11:14:11 +0000 (UTC) Cc: lekktu@gmail.com, eliz@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, jasonr@gnu.org To: Miles Bader Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri May 09 13:14:45 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JuQYc-0001Oe-7d for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 09 May 2008 13:14:34 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34651 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JuQXt-0007sO-Sr for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 09 May 2008 07:13:49 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JuQXi-0007kS-64 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 09 May 2008 07:13:38 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JuQXd-0007io-JF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 09 May 2008 07:13:37 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=51304 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JuQXd-0007ij-9I for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 09 May 2008 07:13:33 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:36959) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JuQXd-0001t3-8r for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 09 May 2008 07:13:33 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JuQWt-000523-7b; Fri, 09 May 2008 07:12:47 -0400 In-reply-to: <8763tozw7y.fsf@catnip.gol.com> (message from Miles Bader on Thu, 08 May 2008 23:50:09 +0900) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:96872 Archived-At: A splash screen, whether hardwired or a hacked emacs frame that avoids the initial-settings issues would seem to take care of "users will get worried" issues. A special splash screen would address that issue. It is useful that there is a real Emacs frame during loading the init file. You get to see progress messages, and you also can use it in the case of an error in the init file. If messages from `message' get displayed in the splash screen, and if error messages get displayed in a real Emacs frame if the init file fails, than might be good enough.