From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: delete-selection-mode Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 00:20:34 -0400 Message-ID: References: <004a01c8a1a0$7215cdd0$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> <85fxthy4qp.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <87hcdxz9zr.fsf_-_@jurta.org> <87ve2cfk9x.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <200804201931.m3KJVO4X008875@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <858wz8ux2w.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <480BA779.2080507@gmail.com> <853apguv0s.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <480BAD5C.4090204@gmail.com> <85prskte96.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <480BB8C0.4020303@gmail.com> <85abjnu5ss.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <480C31B9.6060900@gmail.com> <480CC3AD.1050403@gmail.com> <85mynnxhuh.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <480CD2D1.1020003@gmail.com> <878wz7xdgb.fsf@gmail.com> <85bq43xcq9.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <480CF177.7080904@gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1208838063 11905 80.91.229.12 (22 Apr 2008 04:21:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 04:21:03 +0000 (UTC) Cc: cyd@stupidchicken.com, lennart.borgman@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, juri@jurta.org, ams@gnu.org, dann@ics.uci.edu, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, paul.r.ml@gmail.com, drew.adams@oracle.com To: Jason Rumney Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 22 06:21:37 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JoA0a-0001Ft-En for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 Apr 2008 06:21:37 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Jo9zp-0003eE-VC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 Apr 2008 00:20:46 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Jo9zk-0003e4-Ug for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Apr 2008 00:20:40 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Jo9zi-0003dU-TK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Apr 2008 00:20:40 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Jo9zi-0003dK-Hk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Apr 2008 00:20:38 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Jo9zh-0004WX-L7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Apr 2008 00:20:38 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Jo9ze-0000b6-7h; Tue, 22 Apr 2008 00:20:34 -0400 In-reply-to: <480CF177.7080904@gnu.org> (message from Jason Rumney on Mon, 21 Apr 2008 20:56:39 +0100) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:95735 Archived-At: Is that really an objective point of view? To me it looks like arrogance, and if I were a prospective new user of Emacs encountering it, I might be inclined to look elsewhere. That would be no disaster. All else being equal, we would prefer to make each potential user feel more at home with Emacs. But that does not mean we will make incompatible changes that are bad for existing users. This is a non-starter.