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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: utf-16le vs utf-16-le
Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 10:54:30 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1Jl3bC-0005N2-PJ@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)

These two encodings have confusingly similar names, but significantly
different semantics: one expects a BOM, the other does not.  (I'll bet
a sixpack of beer that most of you will not know which one is which.)
A similar problem exists with the -be variant of UTF-16.

The fact that we have utf-16le-with-signature, but don't have the
corresponding -without-signature, also doesn't help.

I tripped over these when I tried to read debugging logs saved by
MS-Windows, which are in UTF-16 without a BOM: I used utf-16-le, which
swallowed the first character.  When I realized it was due to a BOM,
it took me reading of the doc strings of each encoding to find out
what I did wrong.

Can we please come up with some more self-explanatory names, and lose
the confusing le vs -le thing?  Please?





             reply	other threads:[~2008-04-13 14:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-04-13 14:54 Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2008-04-13 19:32 ` utf-16le vs utf-16-le Stefan Monnier
2008-04-14  5:17   ` Kenichi Handa
2008-04-14  6:10     ` David Kastrup
2008-04-14 18:54       ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-14 19:04         ` David Kastrup
2008-04-14 17:38     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-14 18:57     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-13 22:23 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-04-14  3:19   ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-14  7:32     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-04-14  8:20       ` David Kastrup
2008-04-14 18:25         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-04-14 18:46           ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-14 21:01             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-04-14 21:15               ` Andreas Schwab
2008-04-15  0:22                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-04-15  3:25               ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-15 16:51                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-04-15 20:09                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-15 20:31                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-15 20:35                       ` David Kastrup
2008-04-16 20:15                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-04-16 20:32                       ` David Kastrup
2008-04-17  3:23                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-04-17  3:26                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-17  7:44                             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-04-17  8:19                               ` Jan Djärv
2008-04-17 12:41                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-17 17:20                                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-04-17 18:03                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-16 22:09                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-17  1:14                     ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-14 20:20           ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-14 20:58             ` David Kastrup
2008-04-14 22:19               ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-14 22:26                 ` David Kastrup
2008-04-14 22:33                   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-15  5:44                     ` David Kastrup
2008-04-15 15:35                       ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-14 21:35             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-04-14  5:17 ` Kenichi Handa
2008-04-14 13:57   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-14  7:02 ` tomas
2008-04-14 17:45   ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-15  7:38     ` tomas
2008-04-15 22:30       ` Juri Linkov
2008-04-16  3:20         ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-16  8:12           ` Jason Rumney
2008-04-16 13:35             ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-16 14:45               ` Jason Rumney
2008-04-16 17:05                 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-16 20:09               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-04-16 23:17               ` Juri Linkov
2008-04-16 23:42                 ` Jason Rumney
2008-04-17  1:03                   ` Kenichi Handa

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