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From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: pmr@pajato.com, cyd@stupidchicken.com, paul.r.ml@gmail.com,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Window configuration UI (was: Neat features in Eclipse editor)
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 00:47:05 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1JeNXV-0000fA-O5@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvfxuf1n1n.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (message from Stefan Monnier on Mon, 24 Mar 2008 23:53:45 -0400)

    > When you switch from workspace A to workspace B, does your current
    > window configuration get recorded as workspace A?
    > That is an important aspect of Eclipse perspectives.

    Indeed.  Try out my naive attempt at it (see attached) immediately bumps
    into a significant problem: window-configurations are frame-specific, so
    I can't create a winconf "test1" in a frame and then use it in
    another frame.

Moving window configurations from frame to frame is not necessary
for the perspectives feature.  Perspectives in Eclipse seem to be
part of one frame, although I am not sure of that.

    > needs to be possible to get all the right behavior.  For instance, we
    > want GUD to be able to take advantage of this, with a predefined "gud"
    > perspective.  This predefined "gud" perspective should have a window

    This is another problem: window-configurations can't be saved&loaded.

That's a real issue, directly related to implementing perspectives.
To make perspectives persistent we need a way for Lisp code to get
access to the data in them.

In 1984 it was crucial for a window configuration to include window
objects to make it fast to switch to one.  But that may not be
necessary now.  So we could reimplement window configurations
using Lisp objects that hold the data in a transparent way.

Would someone like to try this?




  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-03-26  4:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 139+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-03-22 21:45 Neat features in Eclipse editor Richard Stallman
2008-03-22 21:56 ` Chong Yidong
2008-03-22 21:36   ` Tom Tromey
2008-03-22 23:09   ` Leo
2008-03-23 14:18     ` William Xu
2008-03-23  2:27   ` Juri Linkov
2008-03-23  9:53     ` joakim
2008-03-23 10:50       ` martin rudalics
2008-03-23 10:54       ` martin rudalics
2008-03-23 19:35         ` John S. Yates, Jr.
2008-03-23 19:39           ` Thomas Lord
2008-03-23 21:06             ` John S. Yates, Jr.
2008-03-23 21:42               ` Thomas Lord
2008-03-23 19:49           ` Drew Adams
2008-03-25  8:11           ` dtm
2008-03-24  0:53       ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-24  0:54       ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-24 19:02         ` joakim
2008-03-25  1:06           ` Bastien
2008-03-25 18:31             ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-25 19:19               ` Rajappa Iyer
2008-03-26  1:33                 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-26  4:46                 ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-25  1:50           ` Richard Stallman
2008-04-18 13:25             ` joakim
2008-04-19  2:23               ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-24  0:53   ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-24 18:47     ` paul r
2008-03-25  1:50       ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-25  3:53         ` Window configuration UI (was: Neat features in Eclipse editor) Stefan Monnier
2008-03-25 10:54           ` Window configuration UI Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-25 18:13             ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-26  4:47           ` Richard Stallman [this message]
2008-03-26  9:41             ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-26 22:26               ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-27  2:14                 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-27 19:41                   ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-29 16:27                   ` Michael Sperber
2008-03-31  2:41           ` Window configuration UI (was: Neat features in Eclipse editor) Nick Roberts
2008-03-31 16:25             ` Richard Stallman
2008-04-01  3:00               ` Window configuration UI Stefan Monnier
2008-04-01 21:04                 ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-25 10:08         ` Neat features in Eclipse editor paul r
2008-03-25 10:55           ` David Reitter
2008-03-25 11:35             ` paul r
2008-03-25 21:00               ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-25 22:10                 ` paul r
2008-03-26  1:50                   ` Robert J. Chassell
2008-03-26 22:26                   ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-25 21:01           ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-25 21:16             ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-25 23:17               ` Mike Mattie
2008-03-26  2:23               ` Evans Winner
2008-03-26  7:09               ` Jan Djärv
2008-03-26  7:18                 ` Drew Adams
2008-03-26 22:25               ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-26 22:38                 ` Sebastian Rose
2008-03-26 22:57                   ` paul r
2008-03-26 23:20                     ` Sebastian Rose
2008-03-27  6:57                       ` David Kastrup
2008-03-27  0:22                     ` Mike Mattie
2008-03-27  0:17                   ` Mike Mattie
2008-03-27 19:41                   ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-27 20:18                     ` Sebastian Rose
2008-03-27  0:18                 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-25  0:48   ` Bastien
2008-03-24  1:51 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-03-24 12:29   ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-24 18:24     ` joakim
2008-03-25  1:50       ` Richard Stallman
2008-04-06 20:52 ` Tab bar (was: Neat features in Eclipse editor) Juri Linkov
2008-04-06 23:07   ` Tab bar David Koppelman
2008-04-06 23:48     ` Juri Linkov
2008-04-07  0:05       ` David Koppelman
2008-04-07  0:32         ` Juri Linkov
2008-04-07 14:59           ` Richard Stallman
2008-04-07 23:27             ` Juri Linkov
2008-04-08 15:35               ` Richard Stallman
2008-04-08 15:50                 ` Jason Rumney
2008-04-08 16:58                   ` Drew Adams
2008-04-09 10:33                   ` Richard Stallman
2008-04-09 23:27                     ` Juri Linkov
2008-04-07 14:59       ` Richard Stallman
2008-04-07 15:33         ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-04-07 23:31           ` Juri Linkov
2008-04-08  0:21             ` Drew Adams
2008-04-08  2:06             ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-08 22:11               ` Juri Linkov
2008-04-09  2:00                 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-09  8:45                   ` Juri Linkov
2008-04-09  9:34                     ` Paul R
2008-04-09 14:12                       ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-08 13:58           ` Andrew W. Nosenko
2008-04-08 14:21             ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-04-08 15:55               ` Paul R
2008-04-08 16:04                 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-04-08 16:24                   ` Paul R
2008-04-08 16:25                   ` Andrew W. Nosenko
2008-04-08 20:10                     ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-04-08 21:16                       ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-04-08 21:47                         ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-04-09  2:50                           ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-04-09  8:50                             ` Juri Linkov
2008-04-09  7:55                           ` Jason Rumney
2008-04-09 10:34                           ` Richard Stallman
2008-04-09 14:59                             ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-04-08 22:09                         ` Juri Linkov
2008-04-09  8:12                           ` Andreas Schwab
2008-04-09  8:52                             ` Juri Linkov
2008-04-08 16:50                 ` Ehud Karni
2008-04-07 16:09         ` Drew Adams
2008-04-07 16:52           ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-07 23:35             ` Juri Linkov
2008-04-08 15:36             ` Richard Stallman
2008-04-09  1:56               ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-09 10:34                 ` Richard Stallman
2008-04-07 23:28         ` Juri Linkov
2008-04-07  1:37   ` Tab bar (was: Neat features in Eclipse editor) Drew Adams
2008-04-07 14:59     ` Richard Stallman
2008-04-07 16:09       ` Drew Adams
2008-04-07 23:35         ` Mathias Dahl
2008-04-07 23:33     ` Tab bar Juri Linkov
2008-04-07 15:00   ` Tab bar (was: Neat features in Eclipse editor) Richard Stallman
2008-04-07 23:59   ` Tab bar David De La Harpe Golden
2008-04-08 22:06     ` Juri Linkov
2008-04-09  1:07       ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-04-09  8:48         ` Juri Linkov
2008-04-09  9:24           ` David Kastrup
2008-04-09 23:28             ` Juri Linkov
2008-04-10  6:11               ` Jan Djärv
2008-04-10  7:31                 ` Jason Rumney
2008-04-10  7:44                   ` Jason Rumney
2008-04-10  8:08                   ` Jan Djärv
2008-04-10 15:31                 ` Richard Stallman
2008-04-10 23:11                   ` Juri Linkov
2008-04-12  0:10                     ` Richard Stallman
2008-04-09  9:45           ` Paul R
2008-04-09 23:29             ` Juri Linkov
2008-04-10  8:09               ` Paul R

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