From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: 22.1.92; Tutorial: references to non-existing info nodes Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:12:03 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87hcfecbii.fsf@stupidchicken.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1205334974 20912 80.91.229.12 (12 Mar 2008 15:16:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 15:16:14 +0000 (UTC) Cc: cyd@stupidchicken.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Reiner Steib Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Mar 12 16:16:37 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JZSgl-0003yZ-7K for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:16:23 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JZSg0-0000cU-RS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:15:32 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JZScm-0007n3-5H for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:12:12 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JZScj-0007lI-Cv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:12:10 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JZSci-0007kz-T3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:12:09 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JZSch-0003Ne-UJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:12:08 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JZScd-0000ef-8O; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:12:03 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Reiner Steib on Tue, 11 Mar 2008 21:57:49 +0100) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:92294 Archived-At: | Another explanation of the problem I found is that under the console | C-s disables input and C-q reenables it - which indeed is the case, | but doesn't make much sense under a xterminal, does it? Does this qualify as flow control problem? I don't think so. It looks like he has encountered the fact that C-s and C-q _typed by the user_ operate as commands that turn output off and on. The solution is simply to turn off their effect (and I think Emacs does that in sysdep.c, so why isn't it working?). Flow control means the terminal generates those input characters to regulate input. To avoid that problem, Emacs has to send more padding. But that is what I think no modern terminal emulator will do.