From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Shift-movement selection Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 13:16:16 -0400 Message-ID: References: <200803050637.m256bXL3008361@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <87hcfkdhqk.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87d4q8sq9c.fsf@jurta.org> <8763w0n393.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <871w6ounk0.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> <87ablacdxt.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87skyzzeng.fsf@catnip.gol.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1205169582 20479 80.91.229.12 (10 Mar 2008 17:19:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 17:19:42 +0000 (UTC) Cc: juri@jurta.org, cyd@stupidchicken.com, storm@cua.dk, emacs-devel@gnu.org, miles@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Mar 10 18:20:09 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JYlfL-0004hj-JV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 18:19:59 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JYlen-0008RW-9N for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 13:19:25 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JYlbo-0006VQ-Jh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 13:16:20 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JYlbm-0006Tv-Fq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 13:16:19 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JYlbm-0006Tm-7S for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 13:16:18 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JYlbm-0002AT-0o for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 13:16:18 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JYlbk-0007D9-P2; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 13:16:16 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Stefan Monnier on Sun, 09 Mar 2008 23:37:27 -0400) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:92067 Archived-At: > AFAICS, such an approach would make deselection much less likely to work > consistently: the way it's _supposed_ to work is that any pretty much > any command except for the special shifted versions should cause > deactivation -- and in emacs that's pretty much _every command_. > So to make it work "correctly", you need to modify all commands in > emacs! [yikes!] Most commands already deactivate the mark. So which ones would be left? Do they matter? Ordinary Emacs cursor motion commands such as C-f should not normally deactivate the mark. That would be a painfully incompatible change.