From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Enabling Transient Mark Mode by default Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:57:09 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87myq4saw1.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <878x1ov227.fsf@jurta.org> <878x1os6mt.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <47B39231.8010108@gmail.com> <200802151711.m1FHB3Y3008798@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <200802171658.m1HGwQ4h011067@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <20080219085231.GA1032@muc.de> <200802190938.m1J9ccVg016565@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <20080219190127.GA1106@muc.de> <877ih0o9dx.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87zltvuy7d.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <871w75is4a.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1203721234 16875 80.91.229.12 (22 Feb 2008 23:00:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 23:00:34 +0000 (UTC) Cc: wilde@sha-bang.de, lennart.borgman@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, juri@jurta.org, dann@ics.uci.edu, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, storm@cua.dk, acm@muc.de, miles@gnu.org To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Feb 23 00:00:57 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JSgsx-0006un-NB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 00:00:56 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JSgsS-0000Wm-EJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 18:00:24 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JSgpM-0005T9-QX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:57:13 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JSgpL-0005Rc-6B for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:57:11 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JSgpK-0005RI-NK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:57:10 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JSgpK-0001EI-KI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:57:10 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JSgpJ-0005Gl-Il; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:57:09 -0500 In-reply-to: <871w75is4a.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (stephen@xemacs.org) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:90040 Archived-At: No, I'm pointing out that M-< sets the mark, at least in XEmacs, and I use M-< .... C-u C-SPC a lot. I use C-s ... C-u C-SPC in the same way. I don't think I would like it very much if this activated the region and put the highlighting in my face. Neither of those activates the region in Transient Mark mode. So it looks like what you're ask for is already implemented. Is there a misunderstanding? So maybe C-SPC C-n should leave you with an active region, but C-SPC C-u 256 C-n should not. That seems to be a totally different issue, unrelated to the previous one. I think it would be a bad idea to make C-u 256 C-n treat the mark differently from C-n. So I have to say no to this idea.