From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Tentative diagnosis of TMM's problem. [Re: Enabling Transient Mark Mode by default] Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 04:16:37 -0500 Message-ID: References: <200802151711.m1FHB3Y3008798@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <200802171658.m1HGwQ4h011067@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <20080219085231.GA1032@muc.de> <200802190938.m1J9ccVg016565@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <20080219190127.GA1106@muc.de> <877ih0o9dx.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <20080220200142.GA1979@muc.de> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1203585535 5794 80.91.229.12 (21 Feb 2008 09:18:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 09:18:55 +0000 (UTC) Cc: wilde@sha-bang.de, lennart.borgman@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, juri@jurta.org, dann@ics.uci.edu, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, storm@cua.dk, miles@gnu.org To: Alan Mackenzie Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Feb 21 10:19:19 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JS7aD-0000MW-6H for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 10:19:13 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JS7Zh-0003v4-Oa for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 04:18:41 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JS7Xk-0001ir-Ew for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 04:16:40 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JS7Xi-0001hY-Jq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 04:16:39 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JS7Xi-0001hS-Eo for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 04:16:38 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JS7Xi-0000FR-6o for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 04:16:38 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JS7Xh-0002gf-KD; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 04:16:37 -0500 In-reply-to: <20080220200142.GA1979@muc.de> (message from Alan Mackenzie on Wed, 20 Feb 2008 20:01:42 +0000) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:89794 Archived-At: Strongly agreed! It should be obvious, really - using Emacs with TMM is so radically different from using it without, that it's difficult to imagine anybody not being unhappy with (at least) one of these options. I am surprised by that statement. With mark-even-if-inactive set, the difference is small. What difference are you talking about that you think is "radical"?