From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Enabling Transient Mark Mode by default Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 03:59:29 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87myq4saw1.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <878x1ov227.fsf@jurta.org> <878x1os6mt.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <47B39231.8010108@gmail.com> <200802151711.m1FHB3Y3008798@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <200802171658.m1HGwQ4h011067@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <20080219085231.GA1032@muc.de> <200802190938.m1J9ccVg016565@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <20080219190127.GA1106@muc.de> <877ih0o9dx.fsf@catnip.gol.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1203498800 20794 80.91.229.12 (20 Feb 2008 09:13:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:13:20 +0000 (UTC) Cc: lennart.borgman@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, juri@jurta.org, dann@ics.uci.edu, storm@cua.dk, acm@muc.de To: Miles Bader Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 20 10:13:42 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JRl1J-00019A-SU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:13:42 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JRl0o-0003t2-RB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 04:13:10 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JRl01-0003XX-Rb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 04:12:21 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JRkzy-0003Ux-69 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 04:12:20 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JRkzx-0003Un-RS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 04:12:17 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JRkzx-000356-HF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 04:12:17 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JRknZ-0006HM-GX; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 03:59:29 -0500 In-reply-to: <877ih0o9dx.fsf@catnip.gol.com> (message from Miles Bader on Wed, 20 Feb 2008 07:43:06 +0900) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:89664 Archived-At: > In otherwords, and IMAO, Transient Mark Mode, while good enough for those > who consciously chose to enable it, needs fixing before becoming a > default, if that is to happen. I consider it unacceptable, without mark-even-if-inactive. However, te change that was installed included making mark-even-if-inactive default to t. That might be ok. But the person who did it jumped the gun.