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From: Kenichi Handa <handa@m17n.org>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: (aset UNIBYTE-STRING MULTIBYTE-CHAR)
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 13:00:37 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1JQxBF-0002NQ-Do@etlken.m17n.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvskzrgj6d.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (message from Stefan Monnier on Sun, 17 Feb 2008 20:15:47 -0500)

In article <jwvskzrgj6d.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>, Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:

> > That inefficiency may or may not be important in any given context.
> > Fixing it in casefiddle is definitely desirable.
> > But is it worth breaking all such packages just so that they
> > will optimize an operation that might not use much of the time anyway?

> Why work around the problem in `aset' if it isn't worth fixing in the
> original code?

But you wrote:

> > Then, shouldn't we start the experiment of inhibitting aset
> > on strings just now?
> 
> But I do not think we're ready for that.  Maybe 10 years from now...

I want to avoid treating non-ASCII chars different from
ASCII.  Then, the only solution is to make aset work well
for multibyte characters.

> Especially since implicit conversion of a unibyte-string
> to multibyte is generally a bug in itself (since there are as many ways
> to do that as there are coding systems).

It's not a bug but I agree it's a very bad feature.  But for
the case (aset (string ?a) 0 MULTIBYTE-CHAR), I think it's
better to treat "a" as neutral, or in your terminology
"anybyte".

---
Kenichi Handa
handa@ni.aist.go.jp




  reply	other threads:[~2008-02-18  4:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-02-13  2:36 (aset UNIBYTE-STRING MULTIBYTE-CHAR) Kenichi Handa
2008-02-13  2:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-02-13  3:48   ` Kenichi Handa
2008-02-13 15:33     ` Stefan Monnier
2008-02-13 18:06       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-02-13 19:33         ` Stefan Monnier
2008-02-13 22:49         ` Miles Bader
2008-02-14  1:11           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-02-14  1:17             ` Miles Bader
2008-02-14  1:40               ` Stefan Monnier
2008-02-14  1:49                 ` Miles Bader
2008-02-14 18:10                 ` Richard Stallman
2008-02-14 22:40                   ` David Kastrup
2008-02-15  1:08                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-02-15  1:17                       ` Miles Bader
2008-02-15  7:27                         ` David Kastrup
2008-02-15 12:58                     ` Richard Stallman
2008-02-14 23:37                   ` Leo
2008-02-15 12:59                     ` Richard Stallman
2008-02-14  4:20               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-02-14  4:42         ` Richard Stallman
2008-02-15  1:39       ` Kenichi Handa
2008-02-15  4:27         ` Stefan Monnier
2008-02-15  8:42         ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-02-15  8:53           ` Miles Bader
2008-02-16 12:55             ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-02-16  5:53         ` Richard Stallman
2008-02-16 14:33           ` Stefan Monnier
2008-02-17 20:29             ` Richard Stallman
2008-02-18  1:15               ` Stefan Monnier
2008-02-18  4:00                 ` Kenichi Handa [this message]
2008-02-18 17:31                 ` Richard Stallman
2008-02-13 22:01 ` Richard Stallman
2008-02-13 23:13   ` Miles Bader
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-04-15  7:11 Kenichi Handa
2008-04-15 15:52 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-17  1:13   ` Kenichi Handa
2008-05-07 19:31 Harald Hanche-Olsen
2008-05-14  6:54 ` Harald Hanche-Olsen
2008-05-14 12:22   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-05-14 12:50     ` Harald Hanche-Olsen
2008-05-15  1:18       ` Stefan Monnier
2008-05-15  6:11         ` Harald Hanche-Olsen

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