From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kenichi Handa Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs Subject: Re: 23.0.60; describe-char gives wrong information Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2008 14:08:35 +0900 Message-ID: References: <3167E3EC-A084-4229-9531-AC3E5BDF69BB@Freenet.DE> <60200667-2BCD-4D24-BC0F-700361E632A2@Freenet.DE> <37765195-4505-4662-AE93-5B78556F67F6@Freenet.DE> <7A846B7D-1005-463E-B704-81895DD7FBDC@Freenet.DE> <21707F94-9353-4F39-814B-F10146374B18@Freenet.DE> <75C1B4E4-16F3-44A0-8053-79B4414598F6@Freenet.DE> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.3 - "Ushinoya") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1201842551 4983 80.91.229.12 (1 Feb 2008 05:09:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 05:09:11 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org To: Peter Dyballa Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Feb 01 06:09:31 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JKo9Y-0004M6-V8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 01 Feb 2008 06:09:29 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JKo97-000764-CE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 01 Feb 2008 00:09:01 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JKo94-00075z-78 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Feb 2008 00:08:58 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JKo92-00075V-K3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Feb 2008 00:08:57 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JKo92-00075N-Hu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Feb 2008 00:08:56 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JKo92-0003Nf-9B for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Feb 2008 00:08:56 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166] helo=mx10.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JKo91-0005aY-Vr for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Feb 2008 00:08:56 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JKo8z-0003N1-06 for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Feb 2008 00:08:56 -0500 Original-Received: from mx1.aist.go.jp ([150.29.246.133]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JKo8y-0003MX-3u for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Feb 2008 00:08:52 -0500 Original-Received: from rqsmtp1.aist.go.jp (rqsmtp1.aist.go.jp [150.29.254.115]) by mx1.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id m1158aDm001761; Fri, 1 Feb 2008 14:08:37 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Original-Received: from smtp3.aist.go.jp by rqsmtp1.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id m1158aT3005903; Fri, 1 Feb 2008 14:08:36 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Original-Received: by smtp3.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id m1158ZSW009363; Fri, 1 Feb 2008 14:08:35 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Original-Received: from handa by etlken.m17n.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JKo8h-0006ky-4J; Fri, 01 Feb 2008 14:08:35 +0900 In-reply-to: (message from Peter Dyballa on Thu, 31 Jan 2008 10:30:38 +0100) User-Agent: SEMI/1.14.3 (Ushinoya) FLIM/1.14.2 (Yagi-Nishiguchi) APEL/10.2 Emacs/23.0.60 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) MULE/6.0 (HANACHIRUSATO) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 8 (1) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:87908 gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs:20829 Archived-At: In article , Peter Dyballa writes: >>> Yes, it is now as fast as if started with --disable-font-backend, but >>> the window opens (again) as a very small one: > > >>> Corners: +113+33 -1129+33 -1129-675 +113-675 >>> -geometry 27x15+111+11 > > >>> Correct would be, from ~/.Xdefaults (Emacs*geometry: 97x53+111+11): > > >>> Corners: +113+33 -709+33 -709-257 +113-257 >>> -geometry 97x53+111+11 > > > > Is it a new problem? Doesn't it happen with Emacs 22? > This is a new problem and it does not happen with GNU Emacsen 22.1.50 > and 23.0.50. Please show me the result of M-x describe-face RET default RET. >>> GNU Emacs does not change the HELLO buffer, they have different >>> looks, depending on the number of fonts found. > > > > I don't understand what you mean. > > > Before, when GNU Emacs 23.0.60 was launched with font-backend > disabled it polluted and changed somehow the HELLO buffer, as I > reported. It sees that I missed your report about HELLO file. You wrote "polluted and changed", but what they exactly mean? "changed" from what? > This does not happen anymore. Still GNU Emacs with enabled > font-backend shows less non-Latin glyphs. Please show me a concrete example. If Emacs without font-backend shows a correct glyph for character CH, and Emacs with font-backend doesn't, please show me the result of C-u C-x = on that character by Emacs without font-backend. --- Kenichi Handa handa@ni.aist.go.jp