From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Simple Tasks, new TODO category Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 11:00:58 -0500 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1201363304 14323 80.91.229.12 (26 Jan 2008 16:01:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 16:01:44 +0000 (UTC) Cc: jasonr@gnu.org, lennart.borgman@gmail.com, tomas@tuxteam.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org, dann@ics.uci.edu, jan.h.d@swipnet.se To: "Drew Adams" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 26 17:02:03 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JInTk-000144-R4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 26 Jan 2008 17:02:01 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JInTK-0002RP-Fe for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 26 Jan 2008 11:01:34 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JInTG-0002PO-CF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Jan 2008 11:01:30 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JInTE-0002O3-ML for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Jan 2008 11:01:30 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JInTE-0002Nu-Iu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Jan 2008 11:01:28 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JInTE-0001EL-KM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Jan 2008 11:01:28 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JInSk-0006Hm-5R; Sat, 26 Jan 2008 11:00:59 -0500 In-reply-to: X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:87581 Archived-At: Well, I don't really want to argue about it. I'll just go on record as saying that it is a (classic) mistake. We should at least provide an escape syntax for such a "special" character. If it works ok in XEmacs since 5 years ago, then unless we see some specific likely problem, we can expect it to be ok. Let's have a quoting convention so that people CAN include the special sequence in a menu if they really want to. > XEmacs uses %_, which is even less likely to be used in a menu item > name, and has the benefit of not appearing in any key binding so we > wouldn't have to do any escaping of key bindings that are automatically > added to the menu. "Not appearing in any key binding"? How to know that? A user can bind any keys s?he likes. This is being short-sighted, I think. You'd have to make % a prefix character to make %_ a key binding.