From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: "Position Parameters" in lispref/frames.texi Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 15:30:27 -0500 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1200947543 22218 80.91.229.12 (21 Jan 2008 20:32:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 20:32:23 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Glenn Morris Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 21 21:32:42 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JH3Jw-0007qM-Oz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 21 Jan 2008 21:32:41 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JH3JX-0002qs-7m for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 21 Jan 2008 15:32:15 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JH3Hq-0000fW-9L for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Jan 2008 15:30:30 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JH3Ho-0000cs-QC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Jan 2008 15:30:29 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JH3Ho-0000cg-F9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Jan 2008 15:30:28 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JH3Ho-0004ZZ-5J for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Jan 2008 15:30:28 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JH3Hn-0004Mx-GA; Mon, 21 Jan 2008 15:30:27 -0500 In-reply-to: (message from Glenn Morris on Sun, 20 Jan 2008 21:32:21 -0500) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:87241 Archived-At: The value may be a positive number POS, or a list of the form `(+ POS)' which permits specifying a negative POS value. What? (+ POS) permits a negative POS value? Yes. There are actually two "signs" to specify here: which edge to count from, and which direction to count in. A positive number positions the frame left from the screen left. (+ POSITION) positions the frame left from the screen left, a and POSITION may be negative. A negative number positions the frame right edge from the screem right. (- POSITION) also positions the frame right edge from the screem right, and allows POSITION to be negative. I propose just removing these confusing parts. It reads much better without them. If it is confusing, we should clean it up, but just discarding this information is not a solution.