From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: What a modern collaboration toolkit looks like Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 04:07:40 -0500 Message-ID: References: <20071230122217.3CA84830B9A@snark.thyrsus.com> <4pd9g15e.fsf@blue.sea.net> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1200906531 14292 80.91.229.12 (21 Jan 2008 09:08:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 09:08:51 +0000 (UTC) Cc: jaalto@cante.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Jari Aalto Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 21 10:09:10 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JGseN-0000no-Fw for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 21 Jan 2008 10:09:04 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JGsdy-0007nI-3T for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 21 Jan 2008 04:08:38 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JGsd5-00074h-51 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Jan 2008 04:07:43 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JGsd3-00073g-Ki for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Jan 2008 04:07:42 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JGsd3-00073c-Gi for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Jan 2008 04:07:41 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JGsd3-0001oL-6p for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Jan 2008 04:07:41 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JGsd2-0007cx-RI; Mon, 21 Jan 2008 04:07:40 -0500 In-reply-to: <4pd9g15e.fsf@blue.sea.net> (message from Jari Aalto on Sat, 19 Jan 2008 19:45:17 +0200) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:87193 Archived-At: Git: * The weak point is UI: it is very complicated. Currently requires very steep learning curve even from users that have prior experience (CVS/SVN stc.) Does VC in Emacs overcome that problem? - Bzr seems to take second place. It has a long term progression path and support, very strict code quality and clearly defined development phases. BZR may become a GNU package, which would be a reason to prefer it.