From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kenichi Handa Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs Subject: Re: 23.0.60; describe-char gives wrong information Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2008 11:51:17 +0900 Message-ID: References: <3167E3EC-A084-4229-9531-AC3E5BDF69BB@Freenet.DE> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.3 - "Ushinoya") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1199847129 14773 80.91.229.12 (9 Jan 2008 02:52:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 02:52:09 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org To: Peter Dyballa Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 09 03:52:31 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JCR3O-0007HW-81 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 09 Jan 2008 03:52:30 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JCR30-0000oT-Pt for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 08 Jan 2008 21:52:06 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JCR2f-0000nN-OC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Jan 2008 21:51:45 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JCR2e-0000mr-QZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Jan 2008 21:51:45 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JCR2e-0000mo-Mn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Jan 2008 21:51:44 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JCR2e-0003mk-Gf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Jan 2008 21:51:44 -0500 Original-Received: from mx10.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166]) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JCR2e-00069C-3c for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Jan 2008 21:51:44 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JCR2a-0003m8-On for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Jan 2008 21:51:43 -0500 Original-Received: from mx1.aist.go.jp ([150.29.246.133]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JCR2Y-0003l8-Q5 for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Jan 2008 21:51:40 -0500 Original-Received: from rqsmtp2.aist.go.jp (rqsmtp2.aist.go.jp [150.29.254.123]) by mx1.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id m092pN7Q024677; Wed, 9 Jan 2008 11:51:23 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Original-Received: from smtp2.aist.go.jp by rqsmtp2.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id m092pMV0028094; Wed, 9 Jan 2008 11:51:22 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Original-Received: by smtp2.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id m092pHL2001662; Wed, 9 Jan 2008 11:51:17 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Original-Received: from handa by etlken.m17n.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JCR2D-0000sF-Rv; Wed, 09 Jan 2008 11:51:17 +0900 In-reply-to: <3167E3EC-A084-4229-9531-AC3E5BDF69BB@Freenet.DE> (message from Peter Dyballa on Tue, 8 Jan 2008 14:06:29 +0100) User-Agent: SEMI/1.14.3 (Ushinoya) FLIM/1.14.2 (Yagi-Nishiguchi) APEL/10.2 Emacs/23.0.60 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) MULE/6.0 (HANACHIRUSATO) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 8 (1) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:86615 gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs:20553 Archived-At: In article <3167E3EC-A084-4229-9531-AC3E5BDF69BB@Freenet.DE>, Peter Dyballa writes: > > For the moment, I don't have a good idea about how to order > > character sets that are outside of users locale. Perhaps, > > if the character doesn't belong to any of: > > (get-language-info current-language-environment 'charset) > > the "preferred charset" line should not be showned. > This returns in my UTF-8 *scratch* buffer an absurd > (iso-8859-1) Ah, providing a good default setting for various locale (especially for UTF-8 based ones) has been in my todo-list long. I once proposed a method of generating a proper language environment from locale, but it was rejected. > I never set a language-environment because I had found with others > that this is bringing me back into the world of 7 bit encodings > (maybe also 8 bit). > > > > By the way, in emacs-unicode-2, the default fontset is not > > yet tuned well for Unicode. For instance, for Latin, > > currently only these fonts are registered: > > > > "ISO8859-1" "ISO8859-2" "ISO8859-3" "ISO8859-4" "ISO8859-9" > > "ISO8859-10" "ISO8859-13" "ISO8859-14" "ISO8859-15" > > "VISCII1.1-1" > Why is ISO 8859-16 missing? Just forgotten to be added. I've just installed a fix. > Arial Unicode has U+1F48. It does not have it in a gb18030.2000-0 > font encoding, because this code point is not defined in > GB18030-2000. So one of the first mistakes is to assume U+1F48 is > defined in GB18030-2000 The charset GB18030-2000 surely contains U+1F48. Actually it contains all Unicode characters. > and another one is to use a partial font > encoding like gb18030.2000-0 What do you mean by "partial font encoding"? Anyway, as I wrote before, the bug of selecting a font that doesn't have the character should be fixed now. --- Kenichi Handa handa@ni.aist.go.jp