From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Why Emacs needs a modern bug tracker Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2008 13:09:43 -0500 Message-ID: References: <20080104164454.0A4BD830697@snark.thyrsus.com> <20080105182456.GR30869@thyrsus.com> <20080105214810.GZ30869@thyrsus.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1199643198 32291 80.91.229.12 (6 Jan 2008 18:13:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 18:13:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: esr@snark.thyrsus.com, eliz@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: esr@thyrsus.com Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 06 19:13:39 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JBa0B-00018C-6h for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 06 Jan 2008 19:13:39 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JBZzo-0000ar-Am for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 06 Jan 2008 13:13:16 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JBZwP-0006kl-0g for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Jan 2008 13:09:45 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JBZwO-0006kE-7S for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Jan 2008 13:09:44 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JBZwO-0006k7-13 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Jan 2008 13:09:44 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JBZwN-000116-Ts for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Jan 2008 13:09:43 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JBZwN-0001rd-E2; Sun, 06 Jan 2008 13:09:43 -0500 In-reply-to: <20080105214810.GZ30869@thyrsus.com> (esr@thyrsus.com) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:86360 Archived-At: > But as I said elsewhere, let's have a bug tracker happen, and see > where it gets us. I have seen enough talking on this issue; if > there's energy left in those who think a bug tracker will make a > difference, let's see it in action and argue later. All right. I'll need administrator permissions on our Savannah site. Can you set those? Hold your horses! I'm now willing to consider use of a bug tracker, but that leaves the question of WHICH ONE, and checking that it is actually ok to use. > First step: activate the default Savannah issue tracker for the > project and test it. Might be that one is good enough; I'll > need to check things like whether reports can be gated to > emacs-bugs, and how much work it takes to be able to do > transactions from within Emacs. Miles says that one was no good, when he tried it. On the other hand, Eli says now it works ok for GNU Make: I don't know about ``awful'' (you didn't say what was awful about it), but at least as far as email gateway, the GNU Make project has it set up and running: every bug report gets gatewayed into a mailing list, and so does any comment filed with a bug report. Can you issue commands by email too?