From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Why Emacs needs a modern bug tracker Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2008 05:46:53 -0500 Message-ID: References: <20080104164454.0A4BD830697@snark.thyrsus.com> <20080104232514.GB2735@muc.de> <87r6gxoyjv.fsf@catnip.gol.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1199616653 16591 80.91.229.12 (6 Jan 2008 10:50:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 10:50:53 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=D3scar_Fuentes?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 06 11:51:14 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JBT61-0004LH-QM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 06 Jan 2008 11:51:14 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JBT5a-0004Qa-9q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 06 Jan 2008 05:50:46 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JBT1v-00030H-EF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Jan 2008 05:46:59 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JBT1t-0002yx-P2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Jan 2008 05:46:58 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JBT1s-0002yV-L5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Jan 2008 05:46:57 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JBT1r-00072V-UX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Jan 2008 05:46:56 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JBT1p-0002Lu-Qb; Sun, 06 Jan 2008 05:46:53 -0500 In-reply-to: (message from =?iso-8859-1?Q?=D3scar_Fuentes?= on Sat, 05 Jan 2008 20:05:42 +0100) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:86310 Archived-At: A bug tracker that is not updated by its users is worse than not having a bug tracker. :-) Really, what is important is that bugs are entered on the system. Users will do. You too, if you use report-emacs-bug. The rest comes with little effort. Those who do not want web operation still see the copy published on emacs-*-bugs (just as it happens today) and can request from the system the equivalent of PROBLEMS and TODO with simply a wget. That is already starting to be a bit less convenient than now. Right now I get the latest copy of everything with CVS. You will not have files attached to the reports, such as screenshots, but you have not them today either. Why wouldn't we get them in the email? When you fix something, just say in your commit message "Fixes #1354" and the system will automatically close that bug (plus doing other nice things). That sounds convenient, as far as it goes. Does this particular bug tracker let people control every ticket by sending email to a special address?