From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: question about testing for toolkit Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2008 04:50:02 -0500 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1199354014 660 80.91.229.12 (3 Jan 2008 09:53:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 09:53:34 +0000 (UTC) Cc: drew.adams@oracle.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jan 03 10:53:54 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JAMlm-00006j-8M for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 03 Jan 2008 10:53:46 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JAMlP-0007ae-4K for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 03 Jan 2008 04:53:23 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JAMiC-0005MU-RN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Jan 2008 04:50:04 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JAMiB-0005LR-LY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Jan 2008 04:50:04 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JAMiB-0005LF-Fa for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Jan 2008 04:50:03 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JAMiB-0000j5-3A for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Jan 2008 04:50:03 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JAMiA-0007uZ-KZ; Thu, 03 Jan 2008 04:50:02 -0500 In-reply-to: (message from Stefan Monnier on Tue, 01 Jan 2008 21:54:37 -0500) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:85972 Archived-At: > I think that is the best one. If a toolkit is used, > which toolkit does not matter. I wish no test at all were needed: i.e. the behavior should be the same regardless. Ideally I agree it would be better to change non-toolkit builds to work the way the toolkit builds to: turning menu bar on or off does not alter the number of lines available for text. But does anyone want to do that much work redesigning non-toolkit X usage? At some point we might want to desupport that mode instead. But first we should ask the users how many would be unhappy.