From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: "CHANGED outside Customize" in frames customization group Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 22:18:54 -0500 Message-ID: References: <477616F3.8000003@gmx.at> <4777A62F.9080009@gmx.at> <4777E0F1.3080100@gmx.at> <4778CCC5.1080407@gmx.at> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1199157559 32642 80.91.229.12 (1 Jan 2008 03:19:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2008 03:19:19 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: martin rudalics Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 01 04:19:23 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1J9Xez-0008Qu-Gg for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 01 Jan 2008 04:19:21 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J9Xed-00045g-4A for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 31 Dec 2007 22:18:59 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1J9XeZ-00044A-JF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 31 Dec 2007 22:18:55 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1J9XeY-00042q-U6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 31 Dec 2007 22:18:55 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J9XeY-00042d-Nj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 31 Dec 2007 22:18:54 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1J9XeY-0004JO-L5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 31 Dec 2007 22:18:54 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1J9XeY-0008Uz-9b; Mon, 31 Dec 2007 22:18:54 -0500 In-reply-to: <4778CCC5.1080407@gmx.at> (message from martin rudalics on Mon, 31 Dec 2007 12:04:37 +0100) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:85797 Archived-At: Do I understand you correctly that `frame-notice-user-settings' and `modify-all-frames-parameters' should set the `command-args-...' values (one for the initial and one for the default frame)? Yes, that's what I've proposed. Do you see any flaws in the idea? This would require a non-trivial reorganization of frame.el. I think it should be pretty simple. Only 4 functions in frame.el seem to refer to default-frame-alist or initial-frame-alist. So I think that not much change would be needed. Note that I was not looking into the command-line arguments and X resources issues yet. Yes, but I think this same approach would work for x-win.el and would be simple there too. > Customizing `fringe-mode' calls `modify-all-frames-parameters' which > sets `default-frame-alist'. I'm now told that `default-frame-alist' was > CHANGED outside Customize although all I actually did was _customizing_ > some option. > > The solution to that is just to inform Custom about the change, so it > will realize that the change to `default-frame-alist' was made within > Custom. > > It's just a bug, it just needs to be fixed. I wouldn't know how. If I simply set `default-frame-alist' in some "Custom" way I'll be told that there are unsaved changes. It looks like `customize-set-variable' does the right job. So I think this won't be very hard. Want to give it a try?