From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Suggestion: Let the help command load autoloaded functions etc Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 16:08:07 -0500 Message-ID: References: <47696238.6050601@gmail.com> <476B7BA6.80903@gmail.com> <476B990A.80602@gnu.org> <476BE7C7.2020005@gmail.com> <87zlw3qane.fsf@ambire.localdomain> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1198357747 31521 80.91.229.12 (22 Dec 2007 21:09:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 21:09:07 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Thien-Thi Nguyen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 22 22:09:19 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1J6Bau-0005Ci-IR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 22 Dec 2007 22:09:16 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J6Baa-0007dB-GH for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 22 Dec 2007 16:08:56 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1J6BZq-0006hs-66 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Dec 2007 16:08:10 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1J6BZo-0006dy-9w for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Dec 2007 16:08:09 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J6BZo-0006dd-1P for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Dec 2007 16:08:08 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1J6BZn-0000oN-NJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Dec 2007 16:08:07 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1J6BZn-0000cg-H5; Sat, 22 Dec 2007 16:08:07 -0500 In-reply-to: <87zlw3qane.fsf@ambire.localdomain> (message from Thien-Thi Nguyen on Sat, 22 Dec 2007 11:36:05 +0100) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:85384 Archived-At: i don't think it would be always ok. for example, consider a set of interdependent libraries misbehaving when components are loaded in the wrong order. the result is curiosity- but not necessarily user-induced bug reports. i would hate to have this conversation: Users can always load any library in any order they want. When libraries depend on a certain loading order, the ones to be loaded later should call `require'.