From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: recent changes to org files Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 22:50:14 -0400 Message-ID: References: <8D11CC21-71C6-4BCE-ACBC-090E429E311A@science.uva.nl> <86k5pe6t4e.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <1100BA17-7426-4C73-9EF0-FF90C1859B47@gmail.com> <86bqaq6pza.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1193194466 21793 80.91.229.12 (24 Oct 2007 02:54:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 02:54:26 +0000 (UTC) Cc: johnw@newartisans.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, rgm@gnu.org, carsten.dominik@gmail.com To: "Juanma Barranquero" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 24 04:54:26 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IkWNz-0002BM-Fn for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 24 Oct 2007 04:54:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IkWNr-0005uc-7G for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 22:54:15 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IkWK0-0001Xz-98 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 22:50:16 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IkWJz-0001Xb-Hh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 22:50:15 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IkWJz-0001XU-9v for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 22:50:15 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IkWJz-000675-0j for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 22:50:15 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IkWJy-0001GS-Fs; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 22:50:14 -0400 In-reply-to: (lekktu@gmail.com) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:81612 Archived-At: Changing next-line to forward-line would *not* be such a kind of change, were not for the fact that, in this specific case, it was a mistake. A pretty small one. Someone was trying to get rid of uses of `next-line' in Emacs Lisp programs. He made a mistake in the process, something we all do. However, changing org-mode along with lots of other programs is not generally wrong. When there is a general change in conventions, or a general maintenance activity like "Let's get rid all those compiler warnings", it would be ridiculous to ask the maintainer of every package about some tiny change. We could not get these general changes done, if we had to do that.