From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: frame-local variables weirdness Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 12:04:19 -0400 Message-ID: References: <858x65lh4m.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1192466185 16707 80.91.229.12 (15 Oct 2007 16:36:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 16:36:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: lekktu@gmail.com, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: David Kastrup Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 15 18:36:15 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IhScS-0002mq-Fp for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 15 Oct 2007 18:16:46 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IhScF-0008Ht-BR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 15 Oct 2007 12:16:27 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IhSQY-0003U7-My for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Oct 2007 12:04:22 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IhSQX-0003Sm-48 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Oct 2007 12:04:22 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IhSQW-0003Sc-OG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Oct 2007 12:04:20 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IhSQW-0001VJ-Fu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Oct 2007 12:04:20 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IhSQV-00083D-Ob; Mon, 15 Oct 2007 12:04:19 -0400 In-reply-to: <858x65lh4m.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (message from David Kastrup on Sun, 14 Oct 2007 19:51:05 +0200) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:80933 Archived-At: Maybe it is something better achieved by terminal-local variables. Those were not available at that time. Just a guess. Terminal-local variables were introduced in 1995, before frame-local variables. > I would expect there was some > discussion at the time about reasons to add the feature. Can someone find > that discussion and see what the motive was? That was over nine and a half years ago. The list archives of that time are not public, so it's a task for someone who was there at that moment. I found the discussion. I see that someone asked for a feature to display frame-specific data in the mode line, and I decided this general feature (with which the job could be done) was cleaner and simpler than a specific feature which could do only that one job. Since it isn't very useful, we can take it out if we cannot fix it. But first let's try to fix it.