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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: "Jan Djärv" <jan.h.d@swipnet.se>
Cc: tom.horsley@ccur.com, rms@gnu.org, jeremy@jeremyms.com,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Improving X selection?
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 02:41:51 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1IhJeB-000110-Jl@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4713067D.2060504@swipnet.se> (message from Jan Djärv on Mon, 15 Oct 2007 08:19:41 +0200)

> Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 08:19:41 +0200
> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jan_Dj=E4rv?= <jan.h.d@swipnet.se>
> Cc: Tom Horsley <tom.horsley@ccur.com>, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> 
> I am very opposed to any solution that drags in any selection I explicitly 
> does not paste into Emacs.  For example, if I want to paste CLIPBOARD, PRIMARY 
> may be a very large selection. Over a slow link, getting PRIMARY also makes 
> Emacs unresponsive for several seconds.

This just means that not all users will like the proposal, and
therefore we should have an option to let the users decide what they
want.  The option should probably be tristate, as the current behavior
could have its zealots as well, who will hate the change.  Maybe even
4 different values, see below.

> But we have had this discussion 
> before.  I think that instead of trying to work around the problem by 
> automatically fetching unwanted selections, we should make Emacs conform to a 
> model that makes it very clear what selection Emacs pastes.

It's okay to support such a model, IMO, but I'm not sure I personally
will always know where is the particular selection I want.  Besides,
reaching out for a mouse can be a nuisance.  In such situations,
assuming that link speed is not a problem, having all the selections
in the kill ring might be a good alternative.

Or maybe we should have C-y/M-y fetch all the available selections one
by one, before they fall back on the kill ring.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-10-15  6:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-10-12 14:50 Improving X selection? Tom Horsley
2007-10-14 16:29 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-14 17:25   ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-10-15  6:19     ` Jan Djärv
2007-10-15  6:21       ` Jan Djärv
2007-10-15  6:41       ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2007-10-15  6:55       ` Miles Bader
2007-10-15  8:16         ` Jan Djärv
2007-10-15 14:21       ` Stefan Monnier
2007-10-15 18:30       ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-15 19:26         ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-10-15 20:03           ` Andreas Schwab
2007-10-15 20:22             ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-10-16  8:02               ` Frank Schmitt
2007-10-16  7:27           ` Jan Djärv
2007-10-16 10:08             ` René Kyllingstad
2007-10-16 13:15               ` Stefan Monnier
2008-08-18 15:29                 ` René Kyllingstad
2008-08-18 18:47                   ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-08-18 19:16                 ` David Hansen
2008-08-19  8:06                   ` Frank Schmitt
2008-08-25 15:34                     ` Juri Linkov
2008-08-25 15:56                       ` Frank Schmitt
2008-08-28 17:45                         ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-08-28 17:58                           ` Frank Schmitt
2008-08-28 18:19                             ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-08-29  5:53                               ` David Hansen
2008-08-30  4:08                                 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-08-31  7:41                                   ` David Hansen
2008-08-20 22:41                   ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-08-25 15:34                     ` Juri Linkov
2008-08-26  3:09                       ` David Hansen
2008-08-26  8:03                         ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-08-26  8:41                           ` David Hansen
2007-10-16  7:26         ` Jan Djärv
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-10-15 10:20 Horsley, Tom
2007-10-15 11:06 ` Jan Djärv
2007-10-16  4:10 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-16 23:29   ` David De La Harpe Golden
2007-10-17  1:05     ` David De La Harpe Golden
2007-12-25 21:13     ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-28 19:52       ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-01-29  0:59         ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-02-01 19:15           ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-02-02  0:17             ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-02-03 11:38               ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-02-03 12:44                 ` Jan D.
2008-02-03 13:12                   ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-02-04 21:02                     ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-02-05  3:38                       ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-02-05  7:08                       ` Jan Djärv
2008-02-07  3:57                         ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-02-07  4:23                           ` Miles Bader
2008-02-07  4:59                             ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-02-07  9:07                           ` Jason Rumney
2008-02-07 16:32                             ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-02-07 17:11                               ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-02-07 17:13                               ` Jason Rumney
2008-02-07 19:46                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-02-10 18:42                                 ` Richard Stallman
2008-02-11 17:46                                   ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-02-07 17:25                               ` Stefan Monnier
2008-02-07 17:39                                 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-02-07 17:51                                   ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-02-07 19:54                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-02-07 15:14                           ` Stefan Monnier
2008-02-07 16:15                             ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-02-07 18:01                               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-02-07 18:07                                 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-02-07 19:21                                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-02-08  1:19                                     ` Miles Bader
2008-02-08  1:42                                       ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-02-07 18:22                                 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-02-07 19:45                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-02-07 20:39                                     ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-02-07 21:25                                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-02-07 21:41                                         ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-02-08  0:22                                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-02-08  1:26                                             ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-02-07 22:43                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2008-02-08  2:50                                         ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-02-08 14:41                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2008-02-08 15:21                                             ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-02-17  3:38                                             ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-02-17  3:55                                               ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-02-07 21:01                                     ` Tom Horsley
2008-02-07 21:18                                       ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-02-07 21:36                                         ` Tom Horsley
2008-02-07 21:40                                           ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-02-07 22:51                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2008-02-03 16:18             ` Richard Stallman
2008-02-03 18:29               ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-02-05  5:58               ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-02-05  6:23                 ` Miles Bader
2008-02-05  6:56                   ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-02-03 16:18           ` Richard Stallman

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