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From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: rgm@gnu.org, andreas.roehler@online.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Abbrev tables in elisp with some extra stuff (was: Abbrev should preserve case)
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 11:59:09 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1IgMur-00013M-Ve@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvy7easms0.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (message from Stefan Monnier on Wed, 10 Oct 2007 17:14:01 -0400)

      - :case-preserve non-nil means that abbreviations are lookedup without
	case-folding, and the expansion is not capitalized/upcased.

It seems like a mistake to make this a per-table decision.
In every abbrev table, abbrevs should preserve case by default.
To define an abbrev that is only detected in a particular case
is an exception, so each abbrev needs to be marked if it is
to work that way.

      - :syntax-table holds the syntax table to use to find the relevant word.

Why do we want this?

      - :abbrev-before-point-function holds a function to use to find the
	abbrev at point.

Why do we want this?

      - :enable-function can be set to a function of no argument which returns
	non-nil iff the abbrevs in this table should be used for this instance
	of `expand-abbrev'.  Useful to disable skeleton-abbrevs in strings and
	comments.

That feature is useful, but shouldn't it be per-abbrev, not per-table?
If we have some abbrevs that are from skeletons, and some abbrevs that
are not, we don't want to have to put them in different abbrev tables.

    - allow local-abbrev-table to hold a list of abbrev tables so minor
      modes can add their own abbrev tables as well (useful for mailabbrev.el).

The right way to do this is to have minor-mode-abbrev-table-alist
which would work like minor-mode-map-alist.

    +(defvar abbrev-auto-activated-tables t
    +  ;; Could be expanded to be a predicate.
    +  "List of abbrev tables that can be used when `expand-abbrev' is called implicitly.
    +If t, use all installed tables.")

Is this the best way to design the feature so that `mail-abbrevs-only'
can use it?  Ideally we want some hook function to test
`mail-abbrevs-only' and DTRT, so that setting or binding
`mail-abbrevs-only' in any fashion has the right effect.  That is the
case with the current code in mailabbrev.el.  I don't want to take
a step backwards.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-10-12 15:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-06-20 17:48 Abbrev should preserve case Andreas Röhler
2007-06-20 22:18 ` Glenn Morris
2007-06-21  3:47   ` Davis Herring
2007-06-21  4:14     ` Stefan Monnier
2007-06-21  7:10       ` Andreas Röhler
2007-06-21  8:01         ` Stefan Monnier
2007-06-21  9:00           ` Andreas Röhler
2007-06-21  7:00     ` Glenn Morris
2007-06-21 17:32   ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-21 19:02     ` Stefan Monnier
2007-06-22 16:25       ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-22 17:51         ` Stefan Monnier
2007-06-22 21:53           ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-10 21:14             ` Abbrev tables in elisp with some extra stuff (was: Abbrev should preserve case) Stefan Monnier
2007-10-11 19:57               ` Andreas Röhler
2007-10-12 15:59               ` Richard Stallman [this message]
2007-10-12 21:26                 ` Abbrev tables in elisp with some extra stuff Stefan Monnier
2007-10-13  6:41                   ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-14 17:45                     ` Andreas Röhler
2007-10-15 16:04                       ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-15 18:04                         ` Andreas Röhler
2007-10-16  4:10                           ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-16 20:26                   ` Stefan Monnier
2007-10-17  5:03                     ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-17 14:10                     ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-17 20:48                     ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-24  2:21                       ` Stefan Monnier
2007-10-25  2:10                         ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-26  5:44                           ` Testing new abbrev tables in elisp Stefan Monnier
2007-10-26 19:13                             ` Andreas Röhler
2007-10-26 21:38                               ` Stefan Monnier
2007-10-28 14:13                                 ` Andreas Röhler
2007-10-28 21:03                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2007-10-30 15:10                                     ` Andreas Röhler
2007-10-31  7:47                                       ` Richard Stallman
2007-11-03 20:29                                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-11-04  0:11                                           ` Richard Stallman
2007-11-04  2:42                                             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-11-04 21:06                                               ` Andreas Röhler
2007-11-05  8:47                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-31 16:09                                     ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-31 17:44                                       ` Stefan Monnier

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