From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: un-deprecating CL Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 18:25:03 -0400 Message-ID: References: <864phxjj03.fsf@macs.hw.ac.uk> <87hclx834d.fsf@red-bean.com> <86ps0jiwfm.fsf@macs.hw.ac.uk> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1190068217 14623 80.91.229.12 (17 Sep 2007 22:30:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 22:30:17 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: David O'Toole Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 18 00:30:15 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IXP6Y-0002IY-CA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 00:30:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IXP6W-0007M5-SO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 17 Sep 2007 18:30:08 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IXP29-0003Ci-Pr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Sep 2007 18:25:37 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IXP28-0003Bx-52 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Sep 2007 18:25:37 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IXP28-0003Bp-1M for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Sep 2007 18:25:36 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IXP27-0000V2-Qv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Sep 2007 18:25:35 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IXP1b-0003vu-PE; Mon, 17 Sep 2007 18:25:03 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from David O'Toole on Mon, 17 Sep 2007 00:35:28 -0400) X-Detected-Kernel: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:79143 Archived-At: > `every', `substitute', `find' and `subsetp' have the ugly CL keyword > arguments, so I don't want to add them. It isn't clear to me what exactly is so bad about keyword arguments, or what alternative (if any) you have in mind for dealing sensibly with functions accepting more than one or two optional arguments. The fact that they accept so many optional arguments is one thing I don't like about them. It is too much complexity. If you showed me lots of places that wanted to call a simple `union' function, I'd say sure. But adding a CL-style `union' function is another story.