From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Folding emacsclient into emacs Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 14:07:01 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87sl5n5yem.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87fy1nbe4f.fsf@jurta.org> <86myvu2zw1.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <87d4wodiof.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87ir6gtx7w.fsf_-_@olgas.newt.com> <85bqc7hfau.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <868x79slkb.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <857imscvzn.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1189879680 23557 80.91.229.12 (15 Sep 2007 18:08:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 18:08:00 +0000 (UTC) Cc: bob@rattlesnake.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: David Kastrup Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 15 20:07:58 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IWc3h-0001WC-I9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 15 Sep 2007 20:07:57 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IWc3g-0005sb-NP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 15 Sep 2007 14:07:56 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IWc3I-0005Q0-Qu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Sep 2007 14:07:32 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IWc3H-0005PV-Uh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Sep 2007 14:07:32 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IWc3H-0005PJ-PS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Sep 2007 14:07:31 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IWc3H-0008OC-Fk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Sep 2007 14:07:31 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IWc2n-0007Xd-Uc; Sat, 15 Sep 2007 14:07:01 -0400 In-reply-to: <857imscvzn.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (message from David Kastrup on Sat, 15 Sep 2007 07:56:28 +0200) X-Detected-Kernel: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:78976 Archived-At: We certainly are. If we create behavior _particularly_ for the case where a user's habit does not match the prescription (namely when he dares starting Emacs with a file name) that we know to be annoying in this case, then we _are_ punishing his habits quite deliberately. We are deliberately making sure that those people too will see the splash screen. And the "it's for his own good" excuse We don't say it is for his own good. That must be a misunderstanding. does not fly when alternatives for bringing the same information across are not even considered because "it's his own fault to start Emacs in the wrong way". I never said it was his "fault". You seem to be distorting my words to make me look bad. It is not much use to discuss the matter with you if you do that.