From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Scratch buffer annoyance Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 17:20:15 -0400 Message-ID: References: <877ipev1iv.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87lkdhqp94.fsf@red-bean.com> <20070716203244.85A0A30116@Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE> <8ACF1129-2D04-4157-83F8-0F0F8928A5D2@gmail.com> <86myxvrpc6.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <85abttxuyo.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1184879959 1514 80.91.229.12 (19 Jul 2007 21:19:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 21:19:19 +0000 (UTC) Cc: kfogel@red-bean.com, david.reitter@gmail.com, ams@gnu.org, sdl.web@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: David Kastrup Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 19 23:19:17 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IBdOv-0006BY-8R for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 19 Jul 2007 23:19:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IBdOu-0007PF-Cs for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 19 Jul 2007 17:19:08 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IBdOr-0007Od-BG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jul 2007 17:19:05 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IBdOq-0007OQ-8f for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jul 2007 17:19:04 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IBdOq-0007OG-1j for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jul 2007 17:19:04 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IBdOp-0002qu-SO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jul 2007 17:19:03 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IBdPz-0002nB-2H; Thu, 19 Jul 2007 17:20:15 -0400 In-reply-to: <85abttxuyo.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (message from David Kastrup on Wed, 18 Jul 2007 23:28:31 +0200) X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:75135 Archived-At: > It is easy to solve that by making the file name depend on the pid > and host name. Which will make those buffers survive into the next session just how? By default, only one of them can be restored. Perhaps it should choose the one with the latest modtime. Most people only run one Emacs. For them, this won't be an issue. I think this is a mess asking for trouble. We are trying to patch around a problem that comes from some default usage pattern for single-mode single-session applications. Emacs with its multiple major modes and kitchen-sink usefulness is just not suited to this paradigm. It's not that bad a mismatch.