From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: source repository Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2007 21:30:50 -0400 Message-ID: References: <200707031442.28402.pogonyshev@gmx.net> <468A3997.2040500@f2s.com> <200707031514.17225.pogonyshev@gmx.net> <87tzskyeuf.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <18059.11141.84106.905999@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <87ir90y1k1.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1183599280 15977 80.91.229.12 (5 Jul 2007 01:34:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 01:34:40 +0000 (UTC) Cc: nickrob@snap.net.nz, pogonyshev@gmx.net, eliz@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 05 03:34:39 2007 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1I6GEw-0004wW-HE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 05 Jul 2007 03:34:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I6GEw-0000KV-1a for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 04 Jul 2007 21:34:38 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1I6GBH-0005ma-JR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jul 2007 21:30:51 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1I6GBH-0005mC-1P for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jul 2007 21:30:51 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I6GBG-0005m6-Rr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jul 2007 21:30:50 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1I6GBG-0003xk-J1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jul 2007 21:30:50 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1I6GBG-0006cl-6a; Wed, 04 Jul 2007 21:30:50 -0400 In-reply-to: <87ir90y1k1.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (stephen@xemacs.org) X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:74320 Archived-At: How many developers are in this boat, I don't know. Can Emacs afford to ignore even one? There's more at stake here than a few developers more or less. And some of it is imponderable, such as this: [1] Of course this would require some work by FSF legal, but I see no reason why it would be impossible to write an appropriate assignment instrument, and enforce it with appropriate commit hooks. To think about this would take a lot of time, and it would be easy to be wrong. There is no need to spend time and take a risk where nothing is actually broken. The easy thing to do is to stay with CVS, so we will do that. I will ask the savannah hackers and sysadmins to look at making port 443 access available again. That would help some people and doesn't raise any hard issues.