From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: A wish, a plea Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 14:27:00 -0400 Message-ID: References: <4679F561.4030600@hacksaw.org> <87d4zomyiw.fsf@red-bean.com> <87fy4kjy0k.fsf@red-bean.com> <467AF6CC.2000300@gnu.org> <467BFAAB.8060601@gnu.org> <851wg3chsm.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1182623475 8599 80.91.229.12 (23 Jun 2007 18:31:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 18:31:15 +0000 (UTC) Cc: kfogel@red-bean.com, wilde@sha-bang.de, hacksaw@hacksaw.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, jasonr@gnu.org To: David Kastrup Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jun 23 20:31:13 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1I2AO6-0002hh-VD for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 23 Jun 2007 20:31:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I2AO6-0006oS-Bu for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 23 Jun 2007 14:31:10 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1I2AK6-0004zt-B1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 23 Jun 2007 14:27:02 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1I2AK5-0004zO-Jm for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 23 Jun 2007 14:27:01 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I2AK5-0004zG-8b for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 23 Jun 2007 14:27:01 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1I2AK4-0007V7-Vh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 23 Jun 2007 14:27:01 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1I2AK4-0006rB-8s; Sat, 23 Jun 2007 14:27:00 -0400 In-reply-to: <851wg3chsm.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (message from David Kastrup on Sat, 23 Jun 2007 08:21:29 +0200) X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:73720 Archived-At: Making *scratch* or even something like *unnamed* readonly would pretty much defeat its intent. The principal intent of *scratch* is to be the current buffer when Emacs starts up. Secondarily, it provides a place to enter notes you don't want to save, and eval Lisp expressions. Making it read-only, so you need to type C-x C-q before inserting anything, would not spoil the principal intent. It would slightly inconvenience the secondary intent, but that MIGHT be worth while in exchange for making it less likely to lose data. I am not sure this change is a good idea, but it isn't ridiculous.