From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: A wish, a plea Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 17:53:22 -0400 Message-ID: References: <4679F561.4030600@hacksaw.org> <87d4zomyiw.fsf@red-bean.com> <467AE609.20700@gnu.org> <87k5twjyfs.fsf@red-bean.com> <87ps3nq4qa.fsf@red-bean.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1182549241 17081 80.91.229.12 (22 Jun 2007 21:54:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 21:54:01 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, jasonr@gnu.org, hacksaw@hacksaw.org To: Karl Fogel Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jun 22 23:53:59 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1I1r4p-0006WY-5y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 23:53:59 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I1r4o-00031b-QW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 17:53:58 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1I1r4G-0002fl-GQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 17:53:24 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1I1r4F-0002fP-FT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 17:53:23 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I1r4F-0002fM-AT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 17:53:23 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1I1r4E-0007hh-T5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 17:53:22 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1I1r4E-0000FH-El; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 17:53:22 -0400 In-reply-to: <87ps3nq4qa.fsf@red-bean.com> (message from Karl Fogel on Fri, 22 Jun 2007 10:27:41 -0700) X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:73663 Archived-At: > 3. Maybe also start it out read-only. What would this solve? People would have to type C-x C-q if they really want to put text in the *scratch* buffer, and that will mean they have to think about whether they really want to do that. I am not sure this is a good idea, on the balance, but it certainly addresses the problem. > 4. Maybe also pop up a warning if the user types more than 500 > self-inserting characters in *scratch* without ever doing Lisp > evaluation. As long as we're autosaving, I'm not sure that's necessary. (I'm assuming that proposal applies to any default-selected buffer, whether "*scratch*" or some other name.) It could at least in theory.