* Dired and wildcards
@ 2007-06-19 7:43 Eli Zaretskii
2007-06-19 8:40 ` Andreas Schwab
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From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2007-06-19 7:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-devel
Suppose you have a directory named "foo[bar]". From a Bash prompt,
"ls foo[bar]" will show the contents of that directory, unless there
are files that match the wildcard "foo[bar]". If there are such
files, `ls' shows me those files, not the directory. This is
expected, given the way Bash handles wildcards.
But from Emacs on GNU/Linux, "C-x d foo[bar] RET" _always_ shows the
contents of the directory foo[bar]. Is there any way to tell Dired
that the argument is a wildcard, not a literal file name? What am I
missing?
TIA
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* Re: Dired and wildcards
2007-06-19 7:43 Dired and wildcards Eli Zaretskii
@ 2007-06-19 8:40 ` Andreas Schwab
2007-06-19 15:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
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From: Andreas Schwab @ 2007-06-19 8:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: emacs-devel
Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> But from Emacs on GNU/Linux, "C-x d foo[bar] RET" _always_ shows the
> contents of the directory foo[bar]. Is there any way to tell Dired
> that the argument is a wildcard, not a literal file name? What am I
> missing?
I'm not sure I understand your question. In which way is this different
from the situation in the shell?
Andreas.
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* Re: Dired and wildcards
2007-06-19 8:40 ` Andreas Schwab
@ 2007-06-19 15:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-06-19 15:30 ` Andreas Schwab
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2007-06-19 15:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Andreas Schwab; +Cc: emacs-devel
> From: Andreas Schwab <schwab@suse.de>
> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 10:40:10 +0200
>
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>
> > But from Emacs on GNU/Linux, "C-x d foo[bar] RET" _always_ shows the
> > contents of the directory foo[bar]. Is there any way to tell Dired
> > that the argument is a wildcard, not a literal file name? What am I
> > missing?
>
> I'm not sure I understand your question. In which way is this different
> from the situation in the shell?
At the shell prompt, if there are files that match the shell wildcard
"foo[bar]" (e.g., fooa and foob), `ls' will show them, even though I
have a _subdirectory_ foo[bar] in the sane directory; but in Emacs, I
always get the directory foo[bar], never the files fooa and foob.
Here's a precise recipe:
Outside Emacs: $ mkdir "foo[bar]"; touch "foo[bar]"/{foo,bar}; touch foo{a,b}
Inside Emacs: C-x d foo[bar] RET
Interestingly enough, "C-x d foo*" shows the files fooa and foob. Why
"foo*" is interpreted by Dired as a wildcard, while "foo[bar]" is not?
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* Re: Dired and wildcards
2007-06-19 15:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2007-06-19 15:30 ` Andreas Schwab
2007-06-19 16:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Andreas Schwab @ 2007-06-19 15:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: emacs-devel
Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> Interestingly enough, "C-x d foo*" shows the files fooa and foob. Why
> "foo*" is interpreted by Dired as a wildcard, while "foo[bar]" is not?
Because "foo*" does not exist.
Andreas.
--
Andreas Schwab, SuSE Labs, schwab@suse.de
SuSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstraße 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany
PGP key fingerprint = 58CA 54C7 6D53 942B 1756 01D3 44D5 214B 8276 4ED5
"And now for something completely different."
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* Re: Dired and wildcards
2007-06-19 15:30 ` Andreas Schwab
@ 2007-06-19 16:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-06-19 16:51 ` Andreas Schwab
2007-06-19 17:53 ` Stefan Monnier
0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2007-06-19 16:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Andreas Schwab; +Cc: emacs-devel
> From: Andreas Schwab <schwab@suse.de>
> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 17:30:47 +0200
>
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>
> > Interestingly enough, "C-x d foo*" shows the files fooa and foob. Why
> > "foo*" is interpreted by Dired as a wildcard, while "foo[bar]" is not?
>
> Because "foo*" does not exist.
And now to my original question: is there a way to tell Dired to
interpret "foo[bar]" as a wildcard, even though a file by that literal
name exists? You seem to say there is no way, but I'm not sure I
understand you correctly.
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* Re: Dired and wildcards
2007-06-19 16:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2007-06-19 16:51 ` Andreas Schwab
2007-06-19 19:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-06-19 17:53 ` Stefan Monnier
1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Andreas Schwab @ 2007-06-19 16:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: emacs-devel
Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> And now to my original question: is there a way to tell Dired to
> interpret "foo[bar]" as a wildcard, even though a file by that literal
> name exists? You seem to say there is no way, but I'm not sure I
> understand you correctly.
An existing directory is always preferred, see dired-noselect:
;; If the argument was syntactically a directory name not a file name,
;; or if it happens to name a file that is a directory,
;; convert it syntactically to a directory name.
;; The reason for checking initially-was-dirname
;; and not just file-directory-p
;; is that file-directory-p is slow over ftp.
(if (or initially-was-dirname (file-directory-p dirname))
(setq dirname (file-name-as-directory dirname)))
Andreas.
--
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SuSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstraße 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany
PGP key fingerprint = 58CA 54C7 6D53 942B 1756 01D3 44D5 214B 8276 4ED5
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* Re: Dired and wildcards
2007-06-19 16:51 ` Andreas Schwab
@ 2007-06-19 19:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
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From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2007-06-19 19:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Andreas Schwab; +Cc: emacs-devel
> From: Andreas Schwab <schwab@suse.de>
> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 18:51:51 +0200
>
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>
> > And now to my original question: is there a way to tell Dired to
> > interpret "foo[bar]" as a wildcard, even though a file by that literal
> > name exists? You seem to say there is no way, but I'm not sure I
> > understand you correctly.
>
> An existing directory is always preferred, see dired-noselect:
>
> ;; If the argument was syntactically a directory name not a file name,
> ;; or if it happens to name a file that is a directory,
> ;; convert it syntactically to a directory name.
> ;; The reason for checking initially-was-dirname
> ;; and not just file-directory-p
> ;; is that file-directory-p is slow over ftp.
> (if (or initially-was-dirname (file-directory-p dirname))
> (setq dirname (file-name-as-directory dirname)))
Okay, thanks.
In case you are wondering, I asked these questions because the ls-lisp
emulation seems not to behave this way.
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* Re: Dired and wildcards
2007-06-19 16:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-06-19 16:51 ` Andreas Schwab
@ 2007-06-19 17:53 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-06-19 19:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Monnier @ 2007-06-19 17:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: Andreas Schwab, emacs-devel
> And now to my original question: is there a way to tell Dired to
> interpret "foo[bar]" as a wildcard, even though a file by that literal
> name exists? You seem to say there is no way, but I'm not sure I
> understand you correctly.
I'd try "foo[arb]" or "foo[barr]" or "[f]oo[bar]" ... you get the idea.
Stefan
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* Re: Dired and wildcards
2007-06-19 17:53 ` Stefan Monnier
@ 2007-06-19 19:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2007-06-19 19:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Stefan Monnier; +Cc: schwab, emacs-devel
> Cc: Andreas Schwab <schwab@suse.de>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
> Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 13:53:11 -0400
>
> > And now to my original question: is there a way to tell Dired to
> > interpret "foo[bar]" as a wildcard, even though a file by that literal
> > name exists? You seem to say there is no way, but I'm not sure I
> > understand you correctly.
>
> I'd try "foo[arb]" or "foo[barr]" or "[f]oo[bar]" ... you get the idea.
Or maybe using -d in the ls switches?
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