From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Multi-tty design (Re: Reordering etc/NEWS) Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 05:59:07 -0400 Message-ID: References: <851whkrioc.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <85hcqg4qxs.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <85d5144p78.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <200705131822.l4DIMtXt019128@oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu> <85abw8o51q.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <464835DE.3020007@lorentey.hu> <86y7jrr8rx.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <86lkfrr3s6.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <86d513r2i1.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <861whjr097.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <200705141648.l4EGmmvW007675@oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu> <85bqgngvos.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <200705141819.l4EIJLPr009832@oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu> <85ps53fcm0.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <200705142004.l4EK4DHg012188@oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu> <85lkfrf91x.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <200705142102.l4EL2pHK013655@oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu> <4649D75C.2090905@lorentey.hu> <464A6144.10905@lorentey.hu> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1179396158 13131 80.91.229.12 (17 May 2007 10:02:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 10:02:38 +0000 (UTC) Cc: schwab@suse.de, dann@ics.uci.edu, karoly@lorentey.hu, joakim@verona.se, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Karoly Lorentey Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu May 17 12:02:34 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Hocob-0008ES-RX for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 17 May 2007 12:02:34 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hocwg-0000iQ-MB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 17 May 2007 06:10:54 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HocwR-0000eN-5c for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 17 May 2007 06:10:39 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HocwQ-0000e4-Fx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 17 May 2007 06:10:38 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HocwQ-0000dz-8m for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 17 May 2007 06:10:38 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1HocoK-0006yv-MK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 17 May 2007 06:02:16 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1HoclH-0001Pl-Cu; Thu, 17 May 2007 05:59:07 -0400 In-reply-to: <464A6144.10905@lorentey.hu> (message from Karoly Lorentey on Wed, 16 May 2007 03:41:24 +0200) X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:71217 Archived-At: The client-local environment list is shared between frames that were created in the same Emacsclient session. The environment list is stored in a single frame's environment parameter; the other frames' environment is set to this frame. That seems to privilege the first frame of a given client in a way that seems arbitrary. And what happens if that frame gets deleted? Do you pick another one to be the canonical representative of that client? It seems a bit kludgy. That doesn't necessarily mean I object. This could be the best method. However, I would not describe this as a "client-local" variable. The variable bindings are still frame-local, even though the environment is per-client.