From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs 22 branch created. Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 01:59:02 -0400 Message-ID: References: <871wi9jw37.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <462E7B94.3000008@gnu.org> <462F0A07.50104@gnu.org> <864pn4an8j.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <86zm4w97du.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <20070425195026.GA19472@printf.se> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1177653788 15347 80.91.229.12 (27 Apr 2007 06:03:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 06:03:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: henrik.enberg@telia.com, eliz@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 27 08:03:07 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HhJXq-0001VE-4m for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 27 Apr 2007 08:03:02 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HhJde-0006p3-GI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 27 Apr 2007 02:09:02 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HhJcU-000632-08 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Apr 2007 02:07:50 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HhJcT-00062K-8e for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Apr 2007 02:07:49 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HhJcS-00062G-E6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Apr 2007 02:07:48 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1HhJWd-00088a-9R for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Apr 2007 02:01:47 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1HhJTy-0003NX-65; Fri, 27 Apr 2007 01:59:02 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Stefan Monnier on Wed, 25 Apr 2007 16:05:08 -0400) X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:70220 Archived-At: > * At the moment, it is slightly worse than current Rmail when it comes > to non-ascii support. One of the major points of moving to the mbox > format is to be compatible with external tools, and that rules out > storing mailboxes in emacs-mule form, which old Rmail does. I'm > still not sure what the best approach here would be here. UTF-8? > Raw text? The mailbox should not be decoded, most likely. The decoding should only happen when displaying a message. That would mean decoding each message when you move to it, and reencoding it when you move away from it. And I presume it would have to reencode the current message to save it. Not good! Or it would mean decoding it in a separate buffer, which has its own big inconveniences. I think it should decode a message when it is first visited (and the extra header that Rmail saves data in is constructed). (I don't recall whether I implemented that already in Rmail-inbox.) I think the issue of decoding needs to be dealt with before the Rmail-inbox branch is merged in.