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From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
To: martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at>
Cc: simon@josefsson.org, handa@m17n.org, schwab@suse.de,
	cyd@stupidchicken.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org,
	yazicivo@ttnet.net.tr, eliz@gnu.org, kevin@atkinson.dhs.org
Subject: Re: [yazicivo@ttnet.net.tr: Locale Dependent Downcasing in smtpmail]
Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2007 13:31:31 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1HaEl9-0007TD-W6@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <46174883.4090107@gmx.at> (message from martin rudalics on Sat, 07 Apr 2007 09:30:11 +0200)

    > After the release, it would be good to design a new case conversion
    > system which can handle the cases where one letter converts to more
    > than one.  It would be nice if it could even handle German.
    > This could be done thru the spell checker.

    Compare the following excerpt from the Aspell manual (appendix C.4):

    The German Sharp S or Eszett does not have an uppercase equivalent.
    Instead when `ß' is converted to `SS'.  The conversion of `ß' to `SS'
    requires a special rule, and increases the length of a word, thus
    disallowing inplace case conversion.  Furthermore, my general rule of
    converting all words to lowercase before looking them up in the
    dictionary won't work because the conversion of `SS' to lowercase is
    ambiguous; it can be `ss' or `ß'.  I do plan on dealing with this
    eventually.

That is not a problem for the method I have in mind.  Emacs can
generate all the possible downcasings of a word containing SS,
then send each one to Aspell to see if it is the right one.
Aspell can handle lower-case words, so this will work.

Meanwhile, this suggests a way that Aspell could handle the upper case
German words: generate the various possible downcasings of it.  (If
there are N occurrences of SS, there will be 2**N possible
downcasings.)  Then see if any of them is in the dictionary.  If so,
the upper case word is valid.  Otherwise, construct the union of the
suggestion-lists from the various possible downcasings.

I cc'd the Aspell maintainer so that he will see this idea.

  reply	other threads:[~2007-04-07 17:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-03-31 20:43 [yazicivo@ttnet.net.tr: Locale Dependent Downcasing in smtpmail] Richard Stallman
2007-04-01 17:39 ` Chong Yidong
2007-04-02  6:51 ` Kenichi Handa
2007-04-02 22:52   ` Chong Yidong
2007-04-02 23:20     ` Volkan YAZICI
2007-04-03  1:24     ` Kenichi Handa
2007-04-03 21:40     ` Richard Stallman
2007-04-02 17:31 ` Volkan YAZICI
2007-04-03  8:06   ` Kenichi Handa
2007-04-03  8:28     ` Werner LEMBERG
2007-04-03  9:24     ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-04-03  9:33       ` Simon Josefsson
2007-04-03 13:44         ` Volkan YAZICI
2007-04-03 15:29           ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-04-03 15:50             ` David Kastrup
2007-04-03 16:03               ` Andreas Schwab
     [not found]               ` <87k5wt5tnx.fsf@ttnet.net.tr>
2007-04-03 16:21                 ` David Kastrup
     [not found]                 ` <87slbhquuw.fsf@ttnet.net.tr>
2007-04-03 18:44                   ` David Kastrup
2007-04-03 16:30             ` Chong Yidong
2007-04-03 17:57               ` with-case-table / ascii-case-table (was: [yazicivo@ttnet.net.tr: Locale Dependent Downcasing in smtpmail]) Reiner Steib
2007-04-04 15:40                 ` with-case-table / ascii-case-table Chong Yidong
2007-04-04 14:02               ` [yazicivo@ttnet.net.tr: Locale Dependent Downcasing in smtpmail] Richard Stallman
2007-04-04 14:27                 ` Andreas Schwab
2007-04-05 23:11                   ` Richard Stallman
2007-04-06  6:15                     ` Kenichi Handa
2007-04-06  6:49                       ` Werner LEMBERG
2007-04-06  7:15                         ` Kenichi Handa
2007-04-06  7:30                           ` Werner LEMBERG
2007-04-06  8:56                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-04-06  9:24                             ` Werner LEMBERG
2007-04-06 13:54                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-04-07  8:01                                 ` Werner LEMBERG
2007-04-06 19:47                       ` Richard Stallman
2007-04-07  7:30                         ` martin rudalics
2007-04-07 17:31                           ` Richard Stallman [this message]
2007-04-04 18:01                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-04-05 23:11                   ` Richard Stallman
2007-04-06  8:31                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-04-06 19:47                       ` Richard Stallman
2007-04-07  9:18                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-04-07 15:03                           ` Chong Yidong
2007-04-07 17:36                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-04-07 17:31                           ` Richard Stallman
2007-04-07 17:47                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-04-03 21:16           ` Davis Herring

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