From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
To: "Juanma Barranquero" <lekktu@gmail.com>
Cc: drew.adams@oracle.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [drew.adams@oracle.com: RE: Customize doc strings and tagstrings do not respect \\<...> and \\[...]]
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 02:45:55 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1HHxn1-0004H1-4k@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f7ccd24b0702150344xb1127e6q639bc99ac4c7e771@mail.gmail.com> (lekktu@gmail.com)
I don't remember any of the previous discussion after the lapse of a
whole year.
Richard said:
> This could be the most useful behavior, since it provides a warning
> that the keymap is not defined at the place where you expected it to
> be. Any clueful user will realize it means the mode has a bug
> and will report it, and then things will be fixed so they really work.
What did I say that about?
Do you consider using \\<some-mode-map> in the docstring of an
autoloaded function a bug in the mode?
Not particularly, but how does that relate?
True in theory, but the current behavior can be confusing for a
newbie. Witness checkdoc-minor-mode's docstring:
Toggle Checkdoc minor mode, a mode for checking Lisp doc strings.
With prefix arg, turn Checkdoc minor mode on iff arg is positive.
In Checkdoc minor mode, the usual bindings for `eval-defun' which is
bound to
Uses keymap "checkdoc-minor-mode-map", which is not currently defined.
M-x checkdoc-eval-defun and `checkdoc-eval-current-buffer' are
overridden to include
checking of documentation strings.
Is this the sort of output about which I said, "Any clueful user will
realize it means the mode has a bug and will report it, and then
things will be fixed so they really work."?
If so, I think that is true. If the mode produces this output,
it's a bug, and because it is visible it will get fixed.
So, at least in the case of the output of `describe-function',
`describe-variable', etc. a better answer IMHO would be to detect
these cases, silently ignore them at the point where they happen, and
add a prominent notice somewhere (preferibly at the top):
NOTE: This documentation references the keymap "checkdoc-minor-mode-map",
which is not currently defined. You can load the package `checkdoc'
to fix the problem.
That seems like a good solution too, since it will also make the bug
visible.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-02-16 7:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-02-27 8:59 [drew.adams@oracle.com: RE: Customize doc strings and tag strings do not respect \\<...> and \\[...]] Richard Stallman
2006-03-04 14:57 ` Chong Yidong
2006-03-04 17:55 ` [drew.adams@oracle.com: RE: Customize doc strings and tagstrings " Drew Adams
2006-03-04 21:36 ` Andreas Schwab
2006-03-04 22:14 ` Drew Adams
2006-03-05 10:17 ` Andreas Schwab
2006-03-05 15:30 ` Drew Adams
2006-03-05 15:44 ` Andreas Schwab
2006-03-06 0:49 ` Richard Stallman
2006-03-06 13:13 ` Andreas Schwab
2006-03-06 22:48 ` Richard Stallman
2006-03-05 11:05 ` Andreas Schwab
2006-03-06 0:49 ` Richard Stallman
2007-02-15 11:44 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-02-16 7:45 ` Richard Stallman [this message]
2007-02-16 9:49 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-02-17 1:03 ` Richard Stallman
2007-02-17 1:23 ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-03-08 20:49 ` Kevin Rodgers
2006-03-08 21:28 ` Drew Adams
2006-03-27 17:09 ` Per Abrahamsen
2006-03-27 23:51 ` [drew.adams@oracle.com: RE: Customize doc strings andtagstrings " Drew Adams
2006-03-29 8:12 ` Richard Stallman
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