From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Patch: Syntax and Hard Newlines Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 09:24:42 -0500 Message-ID: References: <455F19FC.6@gmx.at> <87wt5svkz1.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <45603BEB.6050006@gmx.at> <85odr14qej.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <51B8AC9B-A9DA-4A5F-83A1-E7B53265FAA5@gmail.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: dough.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1165415174 24391 80.91.229.10 (6 Dec 2006 14:26:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 14:26:14 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 06 15:26:12 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by dough.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Grxis-0001KZ-FT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 15:26:10 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Grxir-0001L2-Vl for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 09:26:10 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GrxhU-0000UE-VN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 09:24:45 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GrxhT-0000Th-Rl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 09:24:43 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GrxhT-0000Tc-Ly for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 09:24:43 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GrxhT-0003Rv-K6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 09:24:43 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.52) id 1GrxhS-00083F-2V; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 09:24:42 -0500 Original-To: David Reitter In-reply-to: <51B8AC9B-A9DA-4A5F-83A1-E7B53265FAA5@gmail.com> (message from David Reitter on Tue, 5 Dec 2006 17:43:53 +0000) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:63359 Archived-At: Discussions with users resulted in binding and to the appropriate functions, but not C-p and C-n, so that wrapped lines can still be navigated comfortably. Those words are vague and I cannot undersand what meanings you have given to these four keys. What behavior did you implement for the and keys? What behavior did you implement for the C-n and C-p keys? IIRC, the functions `visual-line-up' and friends that I wrote differ from the other available library in that they work well with variable- width fonts. `kill-visual-line' and `kill-whole-visual-line', `beginning/end-of- visual-line' are provided as well and do the obvious. It isn't obvious to me. I could try to guess, but I should not, because guessing is unreliable. What do these commands do?