From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Building Emacs-cvs on Cygwin Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 11:06:25 -0400 Message-ID: References: <8564e7wf13.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1161875214 4379 80.91.229.2 (26 Oct 2006 15:06:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 15:06:54 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 26 17:06:53 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gd6ol-0001lE-3u for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 17:06:51 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gd6ok-0001yS-NY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 11:06:50 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Gd6oS-0001y2-5G for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 11:06:32 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Gd6oR-0001xk-QI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 11:06:31 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gd6oR-0001xf-JH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 11:06:31 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gd6oQ-0000uM-I8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 11:06:31 -0400 Original-Received: from eliz by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1Gd6oL-0006Bj-E1; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 11:06:25 -0400 Original-To: David Kastrup In-reply-to: <8564e7wf13.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (message from David Kastrup on Thu, 26 Oct 2006 12:24:40 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:61198 Archived-At: > From: David Kastrup > Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 12:24:40 +0200 > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > > Microsoft Windows is not a complete system, as it is missing most end > user applications, and is also lacking the toolbox inventory of small > utilities that are a necessary ingredient of POSIX systems. What exactly is missing that makes you say this? A bare-bones Linux kernel lacks even a shell and basic commands like ls and cp, which are all GNU programs, but MS-Windows does come with the equivalents of these commands out of the box. > One has to add quite a bit of GNU stuff to MS Windows before it > becomes comparably useful. ``Useful'' is in the eyes of the beholder. ``Usable'' is a more relevant issue: stripped of all GNU programs, a Linux-based system is simply unusable, IMO.