From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: need option so line-move-to-column ignores fields, plus patch Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 18:57:50 -0400 Message-ID: References: <2cd46e7f0608310848l743430e9ia7a1d45e22428083@mail.gmail.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1157065189 16366 80.91.229.2 (31 Aug 2006 22:59:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 22:59:49 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 01 00:59:47 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GIvVe-00037C-AS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 01 Sep 2006 00:59:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GIvVd-0007vj-W2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 18:59:42 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GIvTs-0005uz-IW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 18:57:52 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GIvTr-0005ti-JJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 18:57:51 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GIvTq-0005tP-Te for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 18:57:51 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GIvdZ-0002jB-AM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 19:07:53 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1GIvTq-0003Ns-0U; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 18:57:50 -0400 Original-To: "Ken Manheimer" In-reply-to: <2cd46e7f0608310848l743430e9ia7a1d45e22428083@mail.gmail.com> (ken.manheimer@gmail.com) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:59187 Archived-At: the bug is that i can't use text fields this way without sacrificing column retention on line moves, as far as i can tell. line-move-to-column is hard-wired to respect fields when seeking the prior positions column, so that moving the cursor between topics usually leaves the cursor at column 0, which is almost always not what the user wants. Creating a new variable can enable allout to get what it wants. But that is a sort of a cop-out, because users might want the same thing in other modes that use fields, sometimes. So I wonder: can you identify something about the pattern of use of the fields which makes this result desirable? Then line-move-to-column could detect that usage.