From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: cursor doesn't show through transparent images in emacs 22, unlike emacs 21 Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 13:18:35 -0400 Message-ID: References: <2cd46e7f0608181622w23c7d2b0h9b963deeadfd1c06@mail.gmail.com> <2cd46e7f0608191849g521593acm1f9dbc355315ffd6@mail.gmail.com> <2cd46e7f0608200810ge8885f7l7ffc88fd30a8a3eb@mail.gmail.com> <85zmdx2o5n.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <2cd46e7f0608220645i4c9677d3mf778b3ded10dba07@mail.gmail.com> <87ac5px6cy.fsf@jurta.org> <87wt8sbhux.fsf@jurta.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1156872292 14632 80.91.229.2 (29 Aug 2006 17:24:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 17:24:52 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ken.manheimer@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, storm@cua.dk Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Aug 29 19:24:50 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GI7HP-0000uT-MD for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 29 Aug 2006 19:21:39 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GI7HP-0008RI-6V for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 29 Aug 2006 13:21:39 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GI7EU-00052m-IC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Aug 2006 13:18:38 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GI7ES-00050G-O1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Aug 2006 13:18:37 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GI7ES-0004zz-HW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Aug 2006 13:18:36 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GI7Ng-0003qP-3R for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Aug 2006 13:28:08 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1GI7ER-00012t-8z; Tue, 29 Aug 2006 13:18:35 -0400 Original-To: Juri Linkov In-reply-to: <87wt8sbhux.fsf@jurta.org> (message from Juri Linkov on Tue, 29 Aug 2006 01:44:38 +0300) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:59068 Archived-At: When Lisp programs request a border, then the margin explicitly specified by the `:margin' keyword affects how the cursor in displayed on images. After Kim's changes, the box cursor fills the margin with the cursor's color, and the bar cursor doesn't fill the margin and uses the hollow cursor with the 1-pixel border. I think this is good behavior. It sounds plausible; if you find it easy to see the cursor this way then I expect it is good. The only problem I see now with Kim's changes is that the box cursor on non-transparent images with no margin is not visible at all. If that is so, how about changing the cursor to a different type when that case occurs? It should be easy and will solve this problem. Kim wrote: But there is still a visible difference when the cursor is on the image. What is that visible difference?