From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Info tutorial is out of date Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 11:00:07 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87r70l2xza.fsf@vh213602.truman.edu> <200607170354.k6H3slOj025701@jane.dms.auburn.edu> <200607180440.k6I4eOTi017515@jane.dms.auburn.edu> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1153235013 6939 80.91.229.2 (18 Jul 2006 15:03:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 15:03:33 +0000 (UTC) Cc: karl@freefriends.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, belanger@truman.edu, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 18 17:03:29 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G2r67-0008Oy-GC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 18 Jul 2006 17:02:55 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G2r66-0002Ce-Un for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 18 Jul 2006 11:02:55 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1G2r3R-0007hR-0W for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jul 2006 11:00:09 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1G2r3Q-0007gy-6j for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jul 2006 11:00:08 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G2r3Q-0007gr-4D for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jul 2006 11:00:08 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1G2r6K-0002cz-K0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jul 2006 11:03:08 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1G2r3P-0004Im-48; Tue, 18 Jul 2006 11:00:07 -0400 Original-To: Luc Teirlinck In-reply-to: <200607180440.k6I4eOTi017515@jane.dms.auburn.edu> (message from Luc Teirlinck on Mon, 17 Jul 2006 23:40:24 -0500 (CDT)) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:57271 Archived-At: The fact that quite a bit of text appears apparently out of nowhere when yanking, printing or writing to a file can be very confusing to people (I still quite often get surprised by it and I can only imagine how confusing it can be for less experienced users). Copying text from an Info file is not a beginner activity. Printing one is something a beginner might do, from confusion, but it is not normal beginning use of Info. It is a mistake to document obscure potentially-confusing usages so early in the documentation for beginners. So I believe it should be moved to an intermediate or advanced section.